Sex discrimination in golf

[Deleted member 18588]

Well it is if you pre-declare the round? Which you have to at my club.

Fair enough if you are submitting a supplementary card each time you keep a score.

If not a supplementary then, as I said, the score, in my view at least is irrelevant.

But each to their own as I have previously admitted to being a miserable old sod who has no interest in other's scores or in hearing about their rounds.

 

[Bdill93]

Fair enough if you are submitting a supplementary card each time you keep a score.

If not a supplementary then, as I said, the score, in my view at least is irrelevant.

But each to their own as I have previously admitted to being a miserable old sod who has no interest in other's scores or in hearing about their rounds.

As you say, each to their own!

Maybe to those who have played for years and years score/ strokes isnt important in casual golf, and I might be in agreement with you in a few years. But when youre in your first year of golf, and you ball striking is never consistent, the only thing you can measure a good round or bad round on is your overall strokes or stableford score. How else can I find areas to improve? I record drive locations, penalties, putts all in my watch - post round I can look at the data and see where I lost shots etc and break it down much better to see what area of my game needs addressing the most.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I remember a young teenage future Ryder Cup player trucking up for golf in a multicoloured matching shirt and shorts combo.
I was assailed by a couple of ' senior traditionalists' who complained loudly and publicly
Nothing wrong with that says I 'he looks a lot smarter than you two'.
The young Pro shop staff had to turn away spluttering.

 

[SaintHacker]

Comp rules yes but not comp conditions as there is not the same pressure of having to submit a score at the end of the round.

Disagree. If you're going out with an aim, to shoot a pb, break 90/80 whatever, the pressure on yourself is just the same as it is when playing a comp

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Disagree. If you're going out with an aim, to shoot a pb, break 90/80 whatever, the pressure on yourself is just the same as it is when playing a comp

Depends.

If your objective is not known to others in advance and the score reported afterwards the pressure is not the same.

After all the easiest person to fool is yourself.

 

[Babyliss]

I wonder why this is happening. I thought that gender discrimination was a thing of the past, but apparently I was wrong. the world has changed a lot and I just don't understand some of the preferences of people. For example squirting on webcam This is unattractive to me. but everyone has their own preferences. Likewise, with preferences in golf - someone prefers to play only with guys, although statistics show that the best golfers are girls.

 

[stefanovic]

Any progress to encourage women and girls to join a golf club or is it still Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden at your club?

I can't comment because I'm no longer a member, but in the light of recent news this is even more of an issue.
I play the pay and plays where I've seen very few women players in recent times.

Does Muirfield still only have 12 specially selected female members out of 625?

Is there any specific reason why women might only have their own window of tee times?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Complete equality of membership at my place, has been for some time. Some tee reservations for ladies only, similarly some for gents only…(because sometimes ‘ladies with ladies‘ and ‘gents with gents’ is preferred) - otherwise tee booking is open to all.

 

[harpo_72]

Is there any specific reason why women might only have their own window of tee times?

yes they do, because the senior men block book everything and no one can get on the course. The simple solution is to allow the 7 day members to over write any booking and exercise their 7 day rights irrespective of their gender

 

[Smiffy]

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[Lord Tyrion]

My own club is very good on this front. Ladies are the only grouping with a saturday slot guaranteed, everyone else is fastest finger. Sunday morning has a 2 hour slot for the mens comp booked out but that is it, the rest is open to all. Effectively everyone is an equal 7 day member and are treated as such.

There is one nearby club which treats the ladies section quite appallingly but their location means that they get away with it and the women largely stay. Every so often a grouping will go but they are easily replaced with male members so in reality the club do not care if this happens.

 

[Orikoru]

My club actually had a 'Women on Par' golf day to attract more female members. I took my wife down as she was interested and she got a free 20-minute beginner lesson from one of the pros, which was nice. I think they wanted her to sign up on some kind of light membership deal but she definitely wasn't ready for that. Also she'd have been the youngest female member by a clear 25 years I think.

 

[KenL]

Equality at my place, women have more medals than men too it seems.

There were getting into golf sessions recently to give people a chance to try the game.

 

[drdel]

It's all to easy to turn the system into positive discrimination: which is also unfair.

Equality is about same fees for same service and opportunities.

 

[RichA]

It's all to easy to turn the system into positive discrimination: which is also unfair.

Equality is about same fees for same service and opportunities.

So seniors and kids should be paying full price for membership?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

So seniors and kids should be paying full price for membership?

Seniors certainly should, no reason why not. Juniors, no. They have no income, are reliant on mum and dad paying.

 

[stefanovic]

There is one nearby club which treats the ladies section quite appallingly

If possible please name and shame the club so we can decide how just that might be.

Probably for the first time in human history misogyny may one day become a hate crime.
Whether we are male or female we all have one thing in common.
No other species appears to discriminate.

Btw, does anyone know how many female golfers are on this forum?

 

[Orikoru]

It's all to easy to turn the system into positive discrimination: which is also unfair.

Equality is about same fees for same service and opportunities.

I played at a nine hole course recently with my wife where the green fee was less for women than for men.

 

[drdel]

So seniors and kids should be paying full price for membership?

Not necessarily.

My point was simply that the 'services' males and females recieve from the club should be the same for the same fees. e.g. gender neutral. If juniors are being encouraged then boys and girls pay the same; similarly Old gits pay the same as elderly ladies.

 

[clubchamp98]

Not necessarily.

My point was simply that the 'services' males and females recieve from the club should be the same for the same fees. e.g. gender neutral. If juniors are being encouraged then boys and girls pay the same; similarly Old gits pay the same as elderly ladies.

Ladies have NO joining fee at mine.
Nor do men under 30 yrs old.
I am a senior and pay the same as everyone else.
Our ladies are all full members.

But this is positive discrimination is wrong imo.
A 29yr old multi millionaire only pays half of what it costs to join than a 31yr old on minimum wage.
I understand why they do it to attract younger men but just think it’s wrong.
Everyone should pay the same and get the same service.
Except juniors who have a sliding scale of fees and no JF.