Changes to WHS in April 2024

[wjemather]

How do players calculate for an official club match play competition when rounds are arranged between themselves from the official draw?

From April...

Individual: difference between rounded Course Handicaps
4BBB: 90% of the difference between rounded Course Handicaps
Foursomes: 50% of the difference between combined rounded Course Handicaps

 

[Viewer]

From April...

Individual: difference between rounded Course Handicaps
4BBB: 90% of the difference between rounded Course Handicaps
Foursomes: 50% of the difference between combined rounded Course Handicaps

So same as now essentially?

 

[wjemather]

So same as now essentially?

No. Currently allowances are calculated as the full difference in Playing Handicaps, after allowances have been applied.

 

[Viewer]

No. Currently allowances are calculated as the full difference in Playing Handicaps, after allowances have been applied.

So back in to the old way then?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So same as now essentially?

I’d basically going back to how it was before they changed it

90% of the difference between the players CH

 

[wjemather]

So back in to the old way then?

Yes. I alluded to this in an earlier post.

 

[doublebogey7]

How do players calculate for an official club match play competition when rounds are arranged between themselves from the official draw?

Our ISV (IG) gives us this information, I expect the others do to, assuming the club is using them to do the draw.

 

[Viewer]

Our ISV (IG) gives us this information, I expect the others do to, assuming the club is using them to do the draw.

Gives you what info? IG gives you the unrounded figure?

So an official competition that isn’t stroke play gets run to different rules to an official stroke play that is stroke play and a player could have 2 different handicap numbers of using rounded and unfounded.

 

[Genu9]

Gives you what info? IG gives you the unrounded figure?

So an official competition that isn’t stroke play gets run to different rules to an official stroke play that is stroke play and a player could have 2 different handicap numbers of using rounded and unfounded.

'unfounded' I like that. But best change it, if it's a typo......

 

[wjemather]

Our ISV (IG) gives us this information, I expect the others do to, assuming the club is using them to do the draw.

ClubV1/HowDidiDo doesn't facilitate anything other than viewing the draw for match play knockouts. You can't even enter a match result. It's hopeless.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

ClubV1/HowDidiDo doesn't facilitate anything other than viewing the draw for match play knockouts. You can't even enter a match result. It's hopeless.

My club uses V1 and we can put the results in for match play comps.

 

[wjemather]

My club uses V1 and we can put the results in for match play comps.

The ClubV1 member hub/app is only available on higher subscription levels.

 

[D-S]

ClubV1/HowDidiDo doesn't facilitate anything other than viewing the draw for match play knockouts. You can't even enter a match result. It's hopeless.

That’s poor, it can’t be too complicated to have and you would think an obvious part of decent competition software.
IG is very good in this respect showing shots for all players in each round , prompting for dates (how many days left to play) and for result entry and display.
Seems like this would be a lot less complicated than having all the options for the enormous number of variations on shot allowances in the multitude of formats as well as sorting out countback in strokeplay competitions.

 

[wjemather]

That’s poor, it can’t be too complicated to have and you would think an obvious part of decent competition software.
IG is very good in this respect showing shots for all players in each round , prompting for dates (how many days left to play) and for result entry and display.
Seems like this would be a lot less complicated than having all the options for the enormous number of variations on shot allowances in the multitude of formats as well as sorting out countback in strokeplay competitions.

Sadly, it's far from being the biggest frustration with ClubV1/HowDidiDo.

We have finally had enough and are moving to IG later this month.

 

[Alan Clifford]

No. Currently allowances are calculated as the full difference in Playing Handicaps, after allowances have been applied.

Throw in a difference in pars between the ladies and the gents

 

[jim8flog]

Just out of interest, have any Clubs got their 'updated' Handicap Boards and what information are they giving?
Looking online at some examples they only seem to include 'rounded' CH?

One of the points within the briefings is that clubs do not have to have boards if they do not want them (what happens to visitors is a topic for discussion).

One of the points being made within the briefings is that a full computation method must be used which I presume mean PSI screens.

Our manager has said we are going to QR codes for players to get the info.

 

[jim8flog]

There's no signing to a comp where I play. You hand over your fee and pick up a blank card to fill in.

Therefore you know why he's looking at the board.
A nice expensive one that now needs replacing.

Singles Comps
I have tried for years to get players to understand they only need to score the gross score on a card.
What they score nett or stableford is the committees responsibility.
The last rules revision removed the need for the player to have his handicap on the card.

 

[IanM]

Singles Comps
I have tried for years to get players to understand they only need to score the gross score on a card.
What they score nett or stableford is the committees responsibility.
The last rules revision removed the need for the player to have his handicap on the card.

Absolutely... but in Stablefords folk need to know when to pick up (or not!)

 

[2blue]

One of the points within the briefings is that clubs do not have to have boards if they do not want them (what happens to visitors is a topic for discussion).

One of the points being made within the briefings is that a full computation method must be used which I presume mean PSI screens.

Our manager has said we are going to QR codes for players to get the info.

A good idea.
Sand Moor near us has done the same for their LR's. QR on the card.... so easy to amend & update as needed.

 

[D-S]

One of the points within the briefings is that clubs do not have to have boards if they do not want them (what happens to visitors is a topic for discussion).

One of the points being made within the briefings is that a full computation method must be used which I presume mean PSI screens.

Our manager has said we are going to QR codes for players to get the info.

This is the way a lot of clubs are going.

The big issue is QR codes to where? A bespoke calculator? Your ISV? (have they produced a calculator yet?), EG? (if they put a calculator for all formats on their App?).