99% of scratch events are played from a single set of tees. What harm is being done when an organiser chooses to have a tournament where the best skilled men and best skilled women are encouraged to compete against each other. Nobody is being forced to play.
So what is your point of view?
No harm done, what's your's?
I've put my point of view fairly clearly, probably more times than needed
Is it a Men’s scratch competition or a Women’s scratch competition or a Mixed Gender scratch competition? You need to give full details when asking the question.I've put my point of view fairly clearly, probably more times than needed
Reading your post, it gives no clue what you think about some players getting shots in a scratch comp.
Pretty obvious if you read my post. But for clarity if an organiser chooses to do so in order encourage men and women to compete then then I see no problem. So now please repay the courtesy and answer my question.I've put my point of view fairly clearly, probably more times than needed
Reading your post, it gives no clue what you think about some players getting shots in a scratch comp.
A question for you - on what basis, in your opinion, would the organizer decide a number of strokes? If it's a scratch competition (no handicaps involved), then the handicap system itself is not providing the answer - it's up to the organizer.
The reason we're discussing this is because I have raised the subject, just scroll back and see what I've written.
Could you please start your own thread rather than spoiling mine?
I have re-read every line and there is nothing that suggests how a tourament that encourages elite men and elite women to compete courses any harm. So I'll ask again please answer that question.
Assuming that the tees used have been rated for the relevant gender then the handicap system does provide the answer.
Nobody has ever mentioned "causing harm"
.I would suggest that the handicap system does not provide the answer for a true scratch competition. However, it might provide some information for the Committee to consider when setting their terms of the competition for their competition.
If it’s a mixed gender scratch tournament then it should be equalised, if it isn’t i.e. a Women’s cratch tournament or a Men’s scratch tournament then they wouldn’t get any equalising shots - not sure what is so difficult to comprehend?Nobody has ever mentioned "causing harm"
I simply don't think that anyone in a scratch tournament should effectively get given a handicap based on anything, be it gender, age or whatever should they choose to enter.
Good lord
Then there would be no point in mixed gender scratch competition's, at least not in amateur golf.Good lord
Yes Captain Obvious, I clearly know the rules that are now in place, that is the whole point.
I happen to disagree that it "should".
Anyway, as Ken L points out, the thread is not about this.
Which means that you are content that in a mixed scratch competition played off the same tees with no stroke allowance for the women, the odds will be stacked against them. Fine if you're a man, then.Nobody has ever mentioned "causing harm"
I simply don't think that anyone in a scratch tournament should effectively get given a handicap based on anything, be it gender, age or whatever should they choose to enter.
CR for men off yellow is 70.4, for ladies off red is 72.7 - a difference of 2.3.
