Multi Tee Medals

[Tashyboy]

An excellent topic to discuss.

Our fuddle has about 30 lads in it. Every year we discuss what tees we are going off for the fuddle, seeing as both our fuddle days are Tuesday and Thursday which is comp days. There is a Clash. We as a group have always voted to go off the white tees and I don’t understand it one bit. Some of the guys are over 70 and do not hit it 200 yards. Ironically the eldest guy in our fuddle is the best player and hits it gorgeous playing off a hcap of 2.
We will be discussing this in the next week or so.
For me, on our 18 hole comp days, we should play off whatever tee we want, and on the 9 hole day when none of our fuddle play in the comp play off the whites. Every other player in our club 18 hole comps plays off whatever tee they choose. Us we have to play off the whites. The majority of players are quite good so they feel they have a chance off the whites in the club comps, a few of us don’t. Me I want to get my handicap down and I feel yellows suits my game as our problems are off the tee.

A few years back I was bloody raging as a few lads in the fuddle were. We turned up for the 18 hole comp ready to play off the whites and a PP said “ it’s a Triple roll over on the 2’s comp, there’s well over £100 in the pot so I am going off the yellows as the par threes will be easier” we all went off the yellows. I was bloody seething. I could see the logic, but that same logic is there every week, every comp. It showed that all some golfers are bothered about is money and not the enjoyment of the game.
Some of the lads have already said “ no matter what the majority decide, I am going off the yellows”.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

An excellent topic to discuss.

Our fuddle has about 30 lads in it. Every year we discuss what tees we are going off for the fuddle, seeing as both our fuddle days are Tuesday and Thursday which is comp days. There is a Clash. We as a group have always voted to go off the white tees and I don’t understand it one bit. Some of the guys are over 70 and do not hit it 200 yards. Ironically the eldest guy in our fuddle is the best player and hits it gorgeous playing off a hcap of 2.
We will be discussing this in the next week or so.
For me, on our 18 hole comp days, we should play off whatever tee we want, and on the 9 hole day when none of our fuddle play in the comp play off the whites. Every other player in our club 18 hole comps plays off whatever tee they choose. Us we have to play off the whites. The majority of players are quite good so they feel they have a chance off the whites in the club comps, a few of us don’t. Me I want to get my handicap down and I feel yellows suits my game as our problems are off the tee.

A few years back I was bloody raging as a few lads in the fuddle were. We turned up for the 18 hole comp ready to play off the whites and a PP said “ it’s a Triple roll over on the 2’s comp, there’s well over £100 in the pot so I am going off the yellows as the par threes will be easier” we all went off the yellows. I was bloody seething. I could see the logic, but that same logic is there every week, every comp. It showed that all some golfers are bothered about is money and not the enjoyment of the game.
Some of the lads have already said “ no matter what the majority decide, I am going off the yellows”.

Surely the yellows will already give you a lower playing HC compared to the whites

 

[Orikoru]

I'd still play off the whites regardless. No point in losing 2 or 3 shots off my playing handicap just to be 10 or 20 yards nearer off the tee. I don't think it makes that much difference to my score.

 

[Slab]

I'd still play off the whites regardless. No point in losing 2 or 3 shots off my playing handicap just to be 10 or 20 yards nearer off the tee. I don't think it makes that much difference to my score.

Yeah it’ll be course (& player) dependent
If the player still has nearly the same GIR attempts from either tee then there’s a lot less point in going forward. But if longer tees has a fair/notable fewer GIRs for their game then I’m jogging to the shorter tee

 

[jim8flog]

But remember your handicap (and resultant) handicap relates to the tees you are playing (or have played).

Yes but under the current method receiving strokes 36 points is playing to handicap so playing a lot shorter course may well be very beneficial.

E.g. where I play my course handicap is exactly the same off yellows and reds and I know on quite a few holes playing tees closer to the 'hazards/obstacles/doglegs' would be a very big advantage.

Therefore in answer to the original question I would choose reds at this course, I would strongly suspect that would be the option for the majority so in the main we still would have a level playing field.

To be honest in a recent course survey one of the main points was that on a lot of holes there is very little difference between reds and yellows (this applies to 12 holes), probably why my handicap would remain the same.

 

[Orikoru]

Yeah it’ll be course (& player) dependent
If the player still has nearly the same GIR attempts from either tee then there’s a lot less point in going forward. But if longer tees has a fair/notable fewer GIRs for their game then I’m jogging to the shorter tee

If it was a Stableford comp you'd have to specifically think about where you're losing a shot too. I'd go from 8 to 7 PH if I played yellows, so I lose a shot on stroke index 8 - which is actually the first hole, a long and tough par 3 that I usually bogey. So I'd then be starting my round off with 1-pointer most likely.

 

[Slab]

If it was a Stableford comp you'd have to specifically think about where you're losing a shot too. I'd go from 8 to 7 PH if I played yellows, so I lose a shot on stroke index 8 - which is actually the first hole, a long and tough par 3 that I usually bogey. So I'd then be starting my round off with 1-pointer most likely.

Yup
Whereas at mine I lost my shot on all par 3’s as soon as I started not getting a shot a hole. So they were the first to go regardless of how bogeyable they are (& they are!)

 

[Orikoru]

Yup
Whereas at mine I lost my shot on all par 3’s as soon as I started not getting a shot a hole. So they were the first to go regardless of how bogeyable they are (& they are!)

Different topic but yeah, I hated that too - always seem to lose shots on par 3s first even though a mid-to-long par 3 is much harder than a short par 4 in my book.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We introduced Multi Tee competitions last year, including Monthly Medals, off any rated tee for either gender. The vast majority of members played off the whites, which is the 2nd furthest back, but one or two low handicappers decided to play off reds at the end of the season. Completely against the spirit of what was intended. This year Medals will be off blue/white (yellow or red for ladies, albeit none of them play). There will be a Yellow/Red tee Stableford running concurrently. In the Medal, anyone hoping to win the Scratch prize will have to play off Blue, which arre the back tees.

We have a lot of optional stablefords on Thursdays and Sundays, which will remain white/yellow/red. The very low handicappers tend to give them a miss, having little chance of winning.

eh? One of the main objectives of WHS is to enable players to play off whatever tees on a course they want as a player's playing handicap is adjusted according to the course - so these low handicappers are acting completely within the spirit of what is intended. My medal PH off our back tees is 7 - but I would expect that I could play off our most forward (Green) tees if I wanted with a medal PH of 0.