Changes to WHS in April 2024

[doublebogey7]

Don't waste your time. The party line is ingrained in some people.

The guys who you insulted spend many an hour giving explanations on why and how things are done to questions members ask. Without them this would be an echo chamber.

I suggest if you think the party could do better then put yourself up to join the party.

 

[Genu9]

The guys who you insulted spend many an hour giving explanations on why and how things are done to questions members ask. Without them this would be an echo chamber.

I suggest if you think the party could do better then put yourself up to join the party.

Where's the insult? Some people just won't accept anything that goes against what comes out of EG.

 

[IanM]

In the 80s the Unysis folk I was working with referred to the notion of "perfect enough" in development cycles.

That's how I feel about this. I couldn't care if the odd shot here or there might change depending on the rounding up or down and how many places of decimal are used.

Am I toeing a party line? That doesn't sound like me.

Am I too lazy to get into reviewing pages of chat? (And detail)
Now, that does sound a lot like me!

 

[rosecott]

What is the current status regarding 4BBB scores counting towards Handicap?
Is it being implemented, lost track over the last two weeks?

Our ladies had our first 4BBB comp yesterday under the new regime.

In the early evening, I received an email from Handicapmaster with the ominous subject heading "Odd handicap adjustment after FBBB score submitted to WHS".

While pointing out that the 4BBB submission and any subsequent handicap action is outside the ISV's area of responsibility, they have asked me to review the handicap adjustment made to the handicap of one lady.

They further suggest that I might raise the issue with WHS if I don't like what I find. I will be retrieving the scorecard tomorrow to review the process.

Has anyone else run a 4BBB since the change?

 

[rulefan]

I suspect Horizon was said to be perfect enough

In the 80s the Unysis folk I was working with referred to the notion of "perfect enough" in development cycles.

I suspect Horizon was thought to be 'perfect enough'.

 

[IanM]

No. That was corporate malpractice on a huge scale.

 

[rulefan]

No. That was corporate malpractice on a huge scale.

I was aiming at the designers, programmers and 'testers'

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I was aiming at the designers, programmers and 'testers'

…or more - responsibility for problems should be placed at the feet of those who accept a system into service. It is they who determine if the system is ‘perfect enough’. If they are not happy they should throw it back to the supplier to sort.

 

[IanM]

Yes too both. The original point was only that you can over do something to the point of silliness.

Whs is supported by a range of user apps. If that tells me I get 4 shots, that's good enough. If I want to develop a spreadsheet taking it to umpteen decimal places, I might prove the odd case where it's a shot wrong.

Well, hoorah. Well done. I'm delighted if that's all you have to worry about.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And the ISPs don’t help themselves.

We use IG and I (and I assume all users) got an email from them yesterday covering off issues and problems being reported to them. The also made a couple of statements on calc of Matchplay Shot Allowance…one of which is…

OLD Method = Calculate CH > Multiply by 90% > Then work out the difference
NEW Method = Calculate the CH > Work out the difference > Multiply by 90%

Thing is…you have to know what format this refers to - it does not say.

And it doesn’t say whether or not Calculate (the) CH includes rounding.

 

[wjemather]

And the ISPs don’t help themselves.

We use IG and I (and I assume all users) got an email from them yesterday covering off issues and problems being reported to them. The also made a couple of statements on calc of Matchplay Shot Allowance…one of which is…

OLD Method = Calculate CH > Multiply by 90% > Then work out the difference
NEW Method = Calculate the CH > Work out the difference > Multiply by 90%

Thing is…you have to know what format this refers to - it does not say.

And it doesn’t say whether or not Calculate (the) CH includes rounding.

The only way for members to receive that is for your club to have forwarded it from the admin-updates portal on ig. I really don't know why any club would do that as raw information only serves to confuse the average golfer, especially when it really needs the context of the previous few days posts and comments.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The only way for members to receive that is for your club to have forwarded it from the admin-updates portal on ig. I really don't know why any club would do that as raw information only serves to confuse the average golfer, especially when it really needs the context of the previous few days posts and comments.

Just checked and it has come direct from Intelligent Golf to me. And opens with…

UPDATED: 04/04/2024 (12:00)

Thank you for your feedback and patience following the release of the WHS changes.

As expected, we are encountering some initial teething issues, which we are actively working on as a priority.

To provide you with an update, we have compiled a list of known issues:

Please only raise a ticket if your specific issue is not addressed in the list below:

 

[D-S]

There is a simple 'Send to Members' button on the Admin update page, so I presume if you click that it will appear in the members' inboxes as coming from IG.

Seems a bit odd and overly technical to send to members without context. A simple message from the H&C Committee saying "there are some software issues due to the WHS 2024 change rollout, bear with us" would suffice and make more sense.

 

[clubchamp98]

And the ISPs don’t help themselves.

We use IG and I (and I assume all users) got an email from them yesterday covering off issues and problems being reported to them. The also made a couple of statements on calc of Matchplay Shot Allowance…one of which is…

OLD Method = Calculate CH > Multiply by 90% > Then work out the difference
NEW Method = Calculate the CH > Work out the difference > Multiply by 90%

Thing is…you have to know what format this refers to - it does not say.

And it doesn’t say whether or not Calculate (the) CH includes rounding.

I never got that off IG.

Our results from Saturday and Monday still havnt been posted.
Could be IG struggling.

 

[Imurg]

There is a simple 'Send to Members' button on the Admin update page, so I presume if you click that it will appear in the members' inboxes as coming from IG.

Seems a bit odd and overly technical to send to members without context. A simple message from the H&C Committee saying "there are some software issues due to the WHS 2024 change rollout, bear with us" would suffice and make more sense.

And don't forget...
If you want to hide something send it in an email to Golf Club Members....

 

[wjemather]

Just checked and it has come direct from Intelligent Golf to me. And opens with…

UPDATED: 04/04/2024 (12:00)

Thank you for your feedback and patience following the release of the WHS changes.

As expected, we are encountering some initial teething issues, which we are actively working on as a priority.

To provide you with an update, we have compiled a list of known issues:

Please only raise a ticket if your specific issue is not addressed in the list below:

Yes, this is the most recent "Update News" post in the admin portal on IG. It certainly wasn't sent to everyone by IG.

"Please only raise a ticket..." highlights that it was not intended for general distribution as members do not have this facility.

 

[clubchamp98]

I also had to download IG s updated app.
It didn’t do it automatically like the club said it would.

This might have a bearing on the problems.

 

[wjemather]

I also had to download IG s updated app.
It didn’t do it automatically like the club said it would.

This might have a bearing on the problems.

That would most likely be due to settings on your device. There are factors out of the control of your club and IG, so your club shouldn't have said it would happen automatically.

 

[IanM]

I have auto update apps on all devices... I left one to see what would happen. No update received so far. I had to load the updated version manually on all of them.

 

[clubchamp98]

I have auto update apps on all devices... I left one to see what would happen. No update received so far. I had to load the updated version manually on all of them.

Yep same as mine.