9 hole playing handicap

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One of our group has noted that he is 'receiving' less shots of our white tees than off yellow when playing the front 9 only. This lead to some of us checking and we are seeing the same thing.
Course details are:
Yellow:
CR 69.2, slope 125, par 72
White:
CR 70.5, Slope 126, par 72

1st case has CH of 20 on both tees and PH of 8 on whites and 9 on yellows. 2nd has CH of 14 on both but 5 shots on white and 6 on yellow when playing the front 9. The white tees add less than 100 yards on the front but nearly 200 on the back 9.

Can anyone explain (in really simple terms) why they are getting more shots on the 'easier' 9?
 

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One of our group has noted that he is 'receiving' less shots of our white tees than off yellow when playing the front 9 only. This lead to some of us checking and we are seeing the same thing.
Course details are:
Yellow:
CR 69.2, slope 125, par 72
White:
CR 70.5, Slope 126, par 72

1st case has CH of 20 on both tees and PH of 8 on whites and 9 on yellows. 2nd has CH of 14 on both but 5 shots on white and 6 on yellow when playing the front 9. The white tees add less than 100 yards on the front but nearly 200 on the back 9.

Can anyone explain (in really simple terms) why they are getting more shots on the 'easier' 9?
What are the 9-hole ratings and pars for the front 9?
 

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White CR 34.6, Slope 123
Yellow CR 35, slope 123

Both are par 36

I take it then that this means the yellow is slightly harder?
 

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White CR 34.6, Slope 123
Yellow CR 35, slope 123

Both are par 36

I take it then that this means the yellow is slightly harder?
Correct. Usually that only happens when the yellows are longer than the whites.

However... I think I've found your course, and noticed something odd/wrong.

Your scorecard and England Golf's WHS Platform says par 72 for men from all tees, but the USGA course rating database shows par 72 (white), par 71 (yellow) and par 70 (red).
The USGA course rating database also has your yellow F9 ratings as 34.2/123.

The USGA course rating database is the master record, which means England Golf's WHS Platform is wrong, so I suggest your club need to check their ratings and ensure they are corrected on England Golf's WHS system.
 

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One of our group has noted that he is 'receiving' less shots of our white tees than off yellow when playing the front 9 only. This lead to some of us checking and we are seeing the same thing.
Course details are:
Yellow:
CR 69.2, slope 125, par 72
White:
CR 70.5, Slope 126, par 72

1st case has CH of 20 on both tees and PH of 8 on whites and 9 on yellows. 2nd has CH of 14 on both but 5 shots on white and 6 on yellow when playing the front 9. The white tees add less than 100 yards on the front but nearly 200 on the back 9.

Can anyone explain (in really simple terms) why they are getting more shots on the 'easier' 9?
Course rating minus par is part of the 9 hole course handicap calculation. Even in England!

You should have a 9 hole course rating and a 9 hole slope rating for the 9 holes you are playing. You can't use the 18 hole ratings.


Later ... I see this reply is now redundant.
 
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