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Papas1982

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Id really hope that for young kids like yours that would be allowed. But at my club im not sure. The pros im sure would ignore it. But some old duffer i am sure would make a comment and complain.

An adult turning up in leggings or jeggings wouldnt make it onto the first tee. I doubt anyone would actually check the trainers to see if they were golf shoes, but if they looked like trainers its more than possible.

My partner got shouted at for wearing leggings just when walking with me on a nice evening. He did apologise whe i had a word with him.

I dont wear golf clothes or shoes to the range usually. And i didnt have lessons when i started. In fact i sneaked onto golf courses in the evening to learn the game. Which id have no problem with either... id i saw a kid doing this id invite them to join me.
I think an adult being queried for suitable attire is different to kids tbh. I mean I wouldn't push it and take either of the girls in jeans, but most kids have clothing that's close enough imo.

At my current and previous club the old people have been more than welcoming. In fact the owners wife chatted with my daughter last week whilst walking her dog I the course and the club sec got her an ice lolly.
 

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And if a man has a toned muscular physique then i think tight muscle shirts are fine. For a fat our of shape bloke they look horrific.

A fat many in skinny jeans also looks stupud. Im saying this as a fat bloke.

What is the problem with being honest? Obese people and skin tight clothes do not go well together.
So you would like the golf club's official written dress code to carry caveats depending on what you look like?? :oops: That's borderline facism. :LOL:
 

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So you would like the golf club's official written dress code to carry caveats depending on what you look like?? :oops: That's borderline facism. :LOL:
It could not be written at that point. You would need graphics with a tick or cross going through the picture. How big does the pot / backside have to be before you go into the cross territory :unsure:. I'd love to see the pro shop policing that one :LOL:. It would make a very good Harry Enfield sketch.
 
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And if a man has a toned muscular physique then i think tight muscle shirts are fine. For a fat our of shape bloke they look horrific.

A fat many in skinny jeans also looks stupud. Im saying this as a fat bloke.

What is the problem with being honest? Obese people and skin tight clothes do not go well together.

And who shall be the arbiter of this new golf fa(cist)sion world order? It’s golf, not love island.
 

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It could not be written at that point. You would need graphics with a tick or cross going through the picture. How big does the pot / backside have to be before you go into the cross territory :unsure:. I'd love to see the pro shop policing that one :LOL:. It would make a very good Harry Enfield sketch.
Yeah, "excuse me where do you think you're going? You need to lose at least half a stone before you can wear them. Says it right here.. now step on these scales."
 

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And who shall be the arbiter of this new golf fa(cist)sion world order? It’s golf, not love island.

Id say its common sense and most peoole with a functional brain wouldnt dress in tight clothes if they look like the michelin man.

If people want to dress us in lycra and are obese then let them. But they shoukdnt complain when they get ridiculed for doing so.
 

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Id say its common sense and most peoole with a functional brain wouldnt dress in tight clothes if they look like the michelin man.

If people want to dress us in lycra and are obese then let them. But they shoukdnt complain when they get ridiculed for doing so.

Perhaps we shouldn’t be ridiculing anyone for what they wear or how they look. Just a thought.
 

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Perhaps we shouldn’t be ridiculing anyone for what they wear or how they look. Just a thought.

When standing with your mates on the first tee if someone tops their drive 30 yards do you take the micheal? Assuming that person isnt a brand new golfer or a stranger?

If i put on a load of lycra to go cycling my girl would ridicule me merciously. And id find it funny as well.

What is the problem with having a joke and making fun of things? I am the highest handicapper with my regualr group playing off 11. I get ripped all the time for being a hacker. I enjoy the banter personally.
 

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My club has a rule that 'golf attire' must be worn on the golf course.

In fairness, I've never seen it challenged, but given you see the pros wearing joggers, hoodies, collarless shirts & Nike air max trainers - golf attire is basically a catch all term for all appropriate leisure wear. i.e. no shoes that will damage the course, no sandals, no football or rugby tops, no jeans etc.

I guess if you wore a collarless shirt, you could justify it if it was golf attire rather than street fashion.
 

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I broadly agree. But im not sure how i feel about being mandated to wear somerhing for a hobby just because because its functional.

Folk should be allowed to wear whatever they want. Id still chose a golf shirt, and shorts or trousers. As i like playing in that gear. Id still chose to wear shoes with soft spikes as it works for me. I personally like my golf clothing and find it comfortable.

But... dress codes do put people off. My girl would have to go out and buy golf shoes if i wanted to take her as a guest. He trainers are not acceptable. Nor could she wear her leggings... (realise that im losing my argument that ladies dress up however they like). If a women has a good body i see no problem with gym leggings myself - they are perfectly functional and comfortable. I have my suspicions that the rule on leggings is due to larger older ladies not looking so good in them.
Mate, just shut up while you're behind!!
Your views are completely outdated!
You don't mind seeing women in leggings IF they have a good body!?? Do you actually read what you write? ?
 

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Do all the people posting about the "stuffy" image of golf actually watch any of it on TV???

The days of the middle aged golfer with baggy clothes being the "main man" is 20 years out of date.

The players youngsters idolise now are mainly 20something, good looking, slim, fit and very cool, rich guys who look immaculate in their slim-fitting gear which includes, horror of horror ? shirts tucked in.

To try to shift the reason for wanting to be scruffy onto "growing the game" is way ? the mark in my view.

EDIT : 24 years
Much of what you generally write is pretty accurate I find. I don't necessarily agree with everything, however, this post is a perfect example of being in a bubble and not being able to see what it looks like from outside.

Yes, the players these days on TV look cool etc. No issues there. The problem is that club golf isn't seen on TV and the fact is, it IS very much still seen as stuffy and elitist by many people (rightly or wrongly) but it is seen that way.

For golf to change it needs people not involved in the game to help it change its image, not people in it who think they know what people want etc.

We're going in the right direction, but we're not there yet
 

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And if a man has a toned muscular physique then i think tight muscle shirts are fine. For a fat our of shape bloke they look horrific.

A fat many in skinny jeans also looks stupud. Im saying this as a fat bloke.

What is the problem with being honest? Obese people and skin tight clothes do not go well together.
Fashion Police.
 

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My club has a rule that 'golf attire' must be worn on the golf course.

I guess if you wore a collarless shirt, you could justify it if it was golf attire rather than street fashion.
Last year when we had a spell of it being very hot I was struggling in the heat with my regular golf tops. I talked to our manager and asked where the club stood with collarless style tops. He repeated your comment, 'you can wear any golf attire'. 'Like Tiger?' I asked. 'Any golf attire'. I then bent that slightly by wearing a collarless Nike running t-shirt, the ones that have a type of slight mesh around the back and sides but I would have argued it was a Tiger Nike top if questioned :D. It looked the same so does it matter if running or playing golf? Anyway, much more comfortable in that sort of heat, they are ridiculously light.

As you point out, the likes of Tony Finau, Ricky Fowler, Tiger, Phil push the boundaries so golf attire covers many fashions now. I think it is a good phrase as it accounts for changes in time whereas specifically mentioned items can remain stuck on a dress code well beyond their sell by date, as we see so often.
 

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He could have at least fastened his laces! :mad:

Not quite what Harry Vardon was thinking when he suggested that it was better to wear braces than a belt - besides - where's the jacket he should also be wearing according to Vardon's Edwardian golfing dress code...
 
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You keep going on about how things like not wearing jeans stop people from playing, or looking smart gives a bad impression.

I just don't see that as being true, modern golf clothing is not stuffy or old fashioned.
Indeed - just refelcting on my knock yesterday evening - I was out with a couple of mates - and the majority on the course seemed to be younger- let's say 25yrs or less. All looked relaxed and cool in shirts (mostly tucked in :) ), shorts - and ankle or trainer socks. No-one I saw in shorts was wearing calf or knee length socks - and all according to our dress code. All tidy and cool. Tick. Nothing stuffy at all. And the ladies on the course looked just as comfortably and nicely dressed and well presented ;)

note - IMO jeans are the worse form of trouser to play golf in...too heavy, warm and dreadful when they get wet. That said - I would allow juniors to wear jeans if they wanted to. They won't be dirty. And folk who want to be able to choose whatever they want to wear on a golf course simply need to find one that accommodates their wishes. They number a-plenty. Dead easy.
 
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Last year when we had a spell of it being very hot I was struggling in the heat with my regular golf tops. I talked to our manager and asked where the club stood with collarless style tops. He repeated your comment, 'you can wear any golf attire'. 'Like Tiger?' I asked. 'Any golf attire'. I then bent that slightly by wearing a collarless Nike running t-shirt, the ones that have a type of slight mesh around the back and sides but I would have argued it was a Tiger Nike top if questioned :D. It looked the same so does it matter if running or playing golf? Anyway, much more comfortable in that sort of heat, they are ridiculously light.

As you point out, the likes of Tony Finau, Ricky Fowler, Tiger, Phil push the boundaries so golf attire covers many fashions now. I think it is a good phrase as it accounts for changes in time whereas specifically mentioned items can remain stuck on a dress code well beyond their sell by date, as we see so often.
The only difference between golf shirts and running shirts is the collar nowadays. All my golf shirts are polyester, or polyester/elastane blend, exactly the same as the sports tops that I own. In fact the collar can help keep the sun off your neck. :)
 

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I don't think the anti jeans brigade realise that jeans come in many different weights and thickness these days... I'm not even sure when I last saw a pair of heavy denim!!

Jeans these days are no more inappropriate to wear for golf than chinos.

As for the weather, doesn't anybody actually look at the forecast first to determine the most likely outcome!? ??

All these "nothing worse than wet jeans" people, do you often get caught out by the rain in not suitable clothing?
 

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I don't think the anti jeans brigade realise that jeans come in many different weights and thickness these days... I'm not even sure when I last saw a pair of heavy denim!!

Jeans these days are no more inappropriate to wear for golf than chinos.

As for the weather, doesn't anybody actually look at the forecast first to determine the most likely outcome!? ??

All these "nothing worse than wet jeans" people, do you often get caught out by the rain in not suitable clothing?
This is England mate, can't rely on weather forecasts. And I don't own any waterproof trousers or anything personally, I just wear shorts and if my legs get wet they tend to dry out pretty quick. :D
 

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This is England mate, can't rely on weather forecasts. And I don't own any waterproof trousers or anything personally, I just wear shorts and if my legs get wet they tend to dry out pretty quick. :D
Exactly my point. You're not likely to wear jeans if it might rain!!

Shorts is perfect, skin dries quicker than material
 
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