Ryder Cup 2021 Teams

[Deleted member 15344]

It’s very likely that it will go ahead this year and it seems hopeful that it will be with crowds etc

The qualification is well under way and these are the current “potential” teams

Europe

Fleetwood
Hatton
Rahm
McIlroy
Perez
Willet
Fitzpatrick
Westwood
Wiesberger

Plus 3 Wildcards

US

Johnson
DeChambeu
Thomas
Morikawa
Koepka
Schuaffle

Plus 6 wildcards !

So firstly do you see any players dropping out from the above lists and replaced and who would you be seeing as Wild Cards

Europe -

I can only really see Wiesberger missing out

Players like Stenson , Lowry and Garcia are close to the spots

Wallace I think is going to have a great year


Molinari appears to be nowhere near form

So I can see Wallace making the points list then the following wildcards

Stenson and Garcia

The last one will be between Poulter , Lowry and Rafa CB

Right now I would go for Lowry

US

Schuaffle seems at risk from Webb Simpson but those 7 have a big lead so either Simpson or Schuaffle will get a wild card if they don’t qualify

The next 5 spots between

English , Cantlay , Finau , Reed , Wolff , Berger then maybe Woodland , Woods

Cant see Mickelson near the team now , Woods also , players like Watson and Speith need to show something

I think the wildcards could be

Simpson , English , Cantley , Finau and Reed with Wolff sneaking in

Also with the US getting half the team as a pick is that a good thing ?

 

[Orikoru]

I don't exactly watch all the golf but I'm a little surprised Fitzpatrick is up there. He never seems to do well when I'm watching. And Danny Willett as well?? Not sure how I feel about that. If RCB and Wallace play to their ability this year they should be up there. For wildcards, he has to pick Poulter right, I mean it's almost compulsory?

Imagine having this conversation and not even mentioning Justin Rose. What the hell happened to him?

Also with the US getting half the team as a pick is that a good thing ?

I think it gives them a huge advantage because they can use two or three of them just to pick guys who are on form going into the competition. Whereas our three picks tend to go more to stalwarts.

 

[Imurg]

I think there should be a set method of qualification and picks that both sides have to follow.
The same number of tournaments over a similar time frame and the same number of picks.
6 is too many when we get 3
It allows the Captain to pick 3 more players who have shown form in the last couple of weeks but haven't made the team..and
It allows players who have dropped form in recent weeks to fall out of the automatic spots.
10 qualifiers and 2 picks feels right to me.
And the picks should be named on the same day, one after the other on a live feed.

 

[Beezerk]

Some US team that with some big names not even in the first lot ?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I like the idae of the Yanks having 6 picks, as it makes it more likely that they'll pick Woods and Mickleson

 

[Orikoru]

Some US team that with some big names not even in the first lot ?

On paper they should smash us, but I think we said that last time as well. Lucky you don't play golf on paper.

 

[ADB]

Re Molinari - not sure i agree with OP's summary as he has been improving form - T8 last week at the Amex. He is on paper a solid RC pick being so steady - i imagine given his previous outing with Fleetwood he is higher up the pecking order in Captains picks than others mentioned.

 

[Beezerk]

On paper they should smash us, but I think we said that last time as well. Lucky you don't play golf on paper.

Aye lol there's a few weak links in the Europe team though, I mean Westwood still? Yeah he won the European thing last year but I'd still bet against him every time in a matchplay situation.

*Awaits throng of people bigging up Westwood* ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Re Molinari - not sure i agree with OP's summary as he has been improving form - T8 last week at the Amex. He is on paper a solid RC pick being so steady - i imagine given his previous outing with Fleetwood he is higher up the pecking order in Captains picks than others mentioned.

Molinari is a strange one

In 12 months he has only played 8 events

From those events he has missed the cut 5 times with 8th being his best finish

Because of the way the rankings work he has dropped from 12th in the world to 110th

I don’t know if he was injured last year - early on there were some family move

I hope he does get on form as he is a massive asset - same with Justin Rose

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Westwood has given up playing Ryder cup, hasn't he?.
Like to be one of the backroom boys. He's done his bit.
Re the picks. Agree with Imurg.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'll throw Hovland into the mix for the European team. Playing well, plays US courses all of the time.

I'm another one for Wallace. I think he will revel in the atmosphere and has the game to suit.

We need our team to reflect the nature of the course. It will be set up for US bombers so we need to pick accordingly. Anyone on the edge of the team needs to blast it miles. One for the stats team to look at but this is no time for sentiment.

 

[MarkT]

You'd obviously still fancy Garcia, Casey and Rose to have big years/majors. Reckon Harrington will go with experience with his picks rather than a late bloomer.

Like Karlsson said last time..

“Rickie Fowler asked Henrik’s old caddie, Lordy, why he thought we hadn’t picked another player rather than Garcia. He said: ‘Let me put it this way, it’s the Sunday morning in Paris and you hear, “On the tee: Sergio Garcia” or “On the tee, someone else”…’

Fowler said: ‘You’ve got it right, we just don’t want to play him in the Ryder Cup.’

If Poulter is fit he'll be there. We haven't got a load of obvious pairings so, if Molinari has a decent year, then he should be there too, two lots of foursomes at least with Tommy and then let Tommy have a go with someone else in the fourballs. Rose has gone off first in the last three Ryder Cups.

Then again Lowry and Harrington are so close so you'd think he's a shoo-in. Agree about Wallace, he'll will his way into the team. And Hovland. I need six picks, at least

 

[MarkT]

Rose was 4th in the PGA there in 2015 which will help... maybe

 

[Orikoru]

You'd obviously still fancy Garcia, Casey and Rose to have big years/majors. Reckon Harrington will go with experience with his picks rather than a late bloomer.

Like Karlsson said last time..

“Rickie Fowler asked Henrik’s old caddie, Lordy, why he thought we hadn’t picked another player rather than Garcia. He said: ‘Let me put it this way, it’s the Sunday morning in Paris and you hear, “On the tee: Sergio Garcia” or “On the tee, someone else”…’

Fowler said: ‘You’ve got it right, we just don’t want to play him in the Ryder Cup.’

If Poulter is fit he'll be there. We haven't got a load of obvious pairings so, if Molinari has a decent year, then he should be there too, two lots of foursomes at least with Tommy and then let Tommy have a go with someone else in the fourballs. Rose has gone off first in the last three Ryder Cups.

Then again Lowry and Harrington are so close so you'd think he's a shoo-in. Agree about Wallace, he'll will his way into the team. And Hovland. I need six picks, at least

That may be true for a time but it doesn't work forever does it? Take Mickelson for example, that could have been said for him for a while, but I don't think you'd be worried anymore. It probably buys them one or two wildcard picks tops.

 

[MarkT]

I know, I don't like change. I'd still have the same team from Medinah. But if Rose, Garcia or Poulter were playing pretty well then I'd have them. Less so Casey or Stenson. Every player seems to say that none of us appreciate quite what Garcia adds in the team room which is hard to tally with his on-course demeanour.

Think Harrington will have his specialist fourball/foursome characters and just Rory, Rahm and Tommy going at it all day

 

[Orikoru]

I know, I don't like change. I'd still have the same team from Medinah. But if Rose, Garcia or Poulter were playing pretty well then I'd have them. Less so Casey or Stenson. Every player seems to say that none of us appreciate quite what Garcia adds in the team room which is hard to tally with his on-course demeanour.

Think Harrington will have his specialist fourball/foursome characters and just Rory, Rahm and Tommy going at it all day

Don't Harrington and Garcia hate each other? Or is that old news? If there's a 50-50 on wildcard picks I can't see PH going for him.

 

[MarkT]

Think they made up at Rory's wedding

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Think they made up at Rory's wedding

By all accounts they did.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't Harrington and Garcia hate each other? Or is that old news? If there's a 50-50 on wildcard picks I can't see PH going for him.

They have made up but even if they didn’t then I would expect Harrington to take out any personal feelings from it and purely look at it from a golf and team perspective- and I would suspect Garcia would win any 50/50 when you look at his RC history

 

[Tongo]

That may be true for a time but it doesn't work forever does it? Take Mickelson for example, that could have been said for him for a while, but I don't think you'd be worried anymore. It probably buys them one or two wildcard picks tops.

Mickelson's record in the RC is woeful though for a player of his standing in the game. Don't think his name has ever had the same cachet as Garcia's.

Just checked, Mickelson has won 5 out of 12 singles matches but only 2 out of the last 9! He won his first 3 in 95, 97 and 99 but losing to Phil Price in 2002 seems to have sent his singles play on a nosedive. And his win % overall is only 46%.

Garcia's singles record is only 4 from 9 but he lost 3 of his first 4 singles matches so his recent record in singles is very good. And overall his win % is nearly 54%.