Will Manufacturers Drive Dress Code Change in Clubs?

[Deleted member 15344]

It’s called common sense. Sometimes when I’m driving and I have right of way I let other drivers through because it improves the flow of traffic (or even because I’m feeling nice). I’m not sticking rigidly to the rules, I’m exercising judgment.

What is it with you and rules?

Rules are the fabric of modern society, following those rules is what I would expect to see from any decent citizen

Golf is a sport whose integrity is founded on people following the rules set out by the sport and by the clubs and I will always ask if someone refused to follow a rule by the club what other rule will they refuse to follow - basically because they think it inconveniences them

When it comes to golf and rules we have a choice - if you don’t like the rules set by the club then ask for them to be changed by going through the process - if they don’t then follow the rules or move to a new club. That’s showing the very bare minimum of respect

I’m not happy with all the rules and at times it’s gone through AGM’s to change them and then it’s up to the members to decide

it’s always the same with dress codes or shoe changing etc - be respectful and have the common decency as a human being to follow the rules they set out , none of them are going to cause you any harm or pain

 

[KenL]

Bar levies are a joke.
I spend hundreds in my club every year through choice. Ridiculous (possibly illegal) how some clubs put on a levy.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Is there anyone here who NEVER drives even 1mph over the maximum permitted speed?

You could be breaking a very important rule, you know. Fabric of society and all that.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Bar levies are a joke.
I spend hundreds in my club every year through choice. Ridiculous (possibly illegal) how some clubs put on a levy.

Ours is £10.
Honestly. £10 for a whole year.
So pointless that it is a bad joke.

 

[KenL]

Ours is £10.
Honestly. £10 for a whole year.
So pointless that it is a bad joke.

Some clubs are £150 or more

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Bar levies are a joke.
I spend hundreds in my club every year through choice. Ridiculous (possibly illegal) how some clubs put on a levy.

Again people have the choice - if they don’t like the levy they can go to a club that doesn’t have one ?

They are they to help the clubs income streams , to encourage people to use the facilities - have a bite to eat and a drink , some use the pro shop etc

They aren’t doing it to gain profit and I don’t see how they can be illegal

 

[Lord Tyrion]

We are going off tack a little here but if your product is good enough, bar area, food and drink on offer at fair pricing, then there is no need for levies. Get the product right, don't try to strong arm members.

 

[KenL]

Again people have the choice - if they don’t like the levy they can go to a club that doesn’t have one ?

They are they to help the clubs income streams , to encourage people to use the facilities - have a bite to eat and a drink , some use the pro shop etc

They aren’t doing it to gain profit and I don’t see how they can be illegal

Charging for services not received is not legal.

 

[KenL]

We are going off tack a little here but if your product is good enough, bar area, food and drink on offer at fair pricing, then there is no need for levies. Get the product right, don't try to strong arm members.

This whole thread is off track. ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Charging for services not received is not legal.

Or the club are giving you some money back from your fees to give you some money to spend in the bar ? - they could just take the levy away and charge the same prices ?

 

[KenL]

Nooe

Or the club are giving you some money back from your fees to give you some money to spend in the bar ? - they could just take the levy away and charge the same prices ?

Nope, that's not how it works.

 

[IanM]

I too step outside the boundary of the course to change my shoes now the rule is back in force post covid. I often wait around so the blazer brigade witness the act. I don't know why but I really get off on it.
My last "win" was following my protest at the mandatory £70 bar levy (I never use the bar) the captain and secretary said "oh well". Durring a society I purchased a round of £70 worth of drinks and took great pleasure at the captain witnessing me depositing the cash into my wallet whilst I slapped my card on the bar ?

If it's that bad, why are you still there?

 

[IanM]

Charging for services not received is not legal.

Incorrect. Legally, it's not only not a service (its a membership condition) you have chosen to refuse it.

 

[Voyager EMH]

If it's that bad, why are you still there?

Speaking mainly for myself - some of us love a good moan.

 

[hovis]

If it's that bad, why are you still there?

Leaving in October. ????

 

[KenL]

Incorrect. Legally, it's not only not a service (its a membership condition) you have chosen to refuse it.

So it is OK to charge a £200 bar levy and if you don't use it the club can keep it?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So it is OK to charge a £200 bar levy and if you don't use it the club can keep it?

yep all ok ?

 

[D-S]

So it is OK to charge a £200 bar levy and if you don't use it the club can keep it?

It is also ok for a club to charge an annual membership fee irrespective of how often you use the facilities .
As long as you know what you are getting into up front it is fine.

 

[KenL]

yep all ok ?

You'd be OK with that?
What's your current club's position?
Are you a member somewhere?

 

[KenL]

It is also ok for a club to charge an annual membership fee irrespective of how often you use the facilities .
As long as you know what you are getting into up front it is fine.

Nah, that is different, or at least it should be.