rosecott
Money List Winner
The onus is on the club if they wish to play 9-hole qualifiers. All they need to do is make the request. It's only a paper exercise as England Golf already has all the necessary data.
WHS working well for me
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The onus is on the club if they wish to play 9-hole qualifiers. All they need to do is make the request. It's only a paper exercise as England Golf already has all the necessary data.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Wouldn't work at our place.....you play 9 holes and you are about as far from the club house as its possible to get....and we are not a links course!!!! (actually the 8th tee is as far as you can get on foot but at least you can park your car nearby if you are unfortunate enough to draw the 8th on a shotgun start!!!)
Not sure they do ratings for a 13 hole course which, other than 17 and 18, is the closest green to the clubhouse.
ger147
Tour Winner
We used to play 9 hole comps at our place from holes 8 to 16 and had that as a defined 9 hole course but not sure if that's still the case now we've moved to WHS. 9 hole comps weren't popular so we never did any more other than that one season a few years back now.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Our 18 hole course is measured and rated for both 9s and I think this is pretty standard. We do not need either 9 to be on the EG database for qualifying scores as the course layout does not lend itself to be used for 9 holes scores. It is an out and back layout
However we do have a 9 hole course which is rated for 9 and 18 and this is used for qualifying scores and comps.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Is the SG app telling you your CH or your PH for individual strokeplay?
I think they would be the same anyway, because of your low handicap, but I would still like to know which one is quoted by the app.
wjemather
Well-known member
Under CONGU's implementation of WHS, the 9-hole Course Handicap calculation includes the difference between the Course Rating and Par, whereas the 18-hole Course Handicap calculation does not. (Yes, it is ridiculous.)
I suspect that while your course par remains the same, the Course Rating increases significantly as you go back from green to white to blue tees; that will be why you are seeing such a difference in your Course Handicap.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Swango1980
Well-known member
I didn't know that. Aa you say, absolutely absurd. Meaning in the madness, or an oversight I wonder?
wjemather
Well-known member
With this, and a few other "options" that were chosen, CONGU prioritised continuity with how things worked under UHS over consistency, logic and ease of understanding.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
If you play in a 9-hole comp, your differential is calculated as follows. (Warning: what follows is deeply disturbing)
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Guest
It didn't have to be sequential, you could specify your 9 hole course was for eg 1-4 + 13-18 or whatever
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Deleted member 30522
Guest
Yeah they are bonkers, but not a bug as explained by @Voyager EMH
Just checked my best 8 from the last 20. Last comp was Dec 2020. Better than I thought, 4. Just need to get out there with the new irons I bought last week.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
First handicap qualifying score for a while since the "course maintenance" wrote the greens off for a bit.
One shot worse than my 8th best score.
This would have been a +0.1 in the old system. Now - it has caused no increase. It might even kick in as my 8th best sometime early next year limiting any big rises to handicap.
So a useful score of differential 5.3 instead of a +0.1.
8th best is 4.5 and lowest is 1.0 giving a HI of 2.7
Good system.
One shot worse than my 8th best score.
This would have been a +0.1 in the old system. Now - it has caused no increase. It might even kick in as my 8th best sometime early next year limiting any big rises to handicap.
So a useful score of differential 5.3 instead of a +0.1.
8th best is 4.5 and lowest is 1.0 giving a HI of 2.7
Good system.
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BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
The following post is in the style of the radio programme 'fighting talk' (if familiar) - where's the tongue in cheek emoji ?
It may be called the WHS, but we all know really it's the USA handicap system. It all makes sense really, it's based on form which goes up & down. Play bad for a bit, gain a few shots and become competitive again. It's like American football really, the draft system is there to even out chances so every team has a chance of winning. Plus these inflated handicaps give rise to lower winning scores. It's like the PGA Tour, love a bit of -30 winning, now that's fun, none of this -4 grind out a score nonsense.
#the views in this post may be made up gibberish ???
It may be called the WHS, but we all know really it's the USA handicap system. It all makes sense really, it's based on form which goes up & down. Play bad for a bit, gain a few shots and become competitive again. It's like American football really, the draft system is there to even out chances so every team has a chance of winning. Plus these inflated handicaps give rise to lower winning scores. It's like the PGA Tour, love a bit of -30 winning, now that's fun, none of this -4 grind out a score nonsense.
#the views in this post may be made up gibberish ???
Barking_Mad
Well-known member
Quick question...
I play a par 4 hole where I get one shot for my handicap. I take 9 shots.
I mark 9 down as my actual score, but my net score is 7. No more than double bogey, plus the shot towards my handicap. Is this correct?
I play a par 4 hole where I get one shot for my handicap. I take 9 shots.
I mark 9 down as my actual score, but my net score is 7. No more than double bogey, plus the shot towards my handicap. Is this correct?
richbeech
Hacker
Yes, the most you can get is a net double bogey so that’s 6 plus the shot you get for the hole so 7. Doesn’t matter if you actually took 10 shots it will just go down as a 7 (*6)
Barking_Mad
Well-known member
Edit: I'm using the golfpad app and I've marked all my shots so it's rightly counted 9, but I guess I should just scrub some of them off and put it down as a 7, so it works out the net score correctly.
Thanks!
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wjemather
Well-known member
Your nett score on the hole is 8 (9 minus your stroke); it only gets adjusted to a 7 (i.e. nett double bogey) for handicapping.
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Absolutely not, you put down the number of shots you took on the hole, the nett double bogey adjustment os for handicap purposes worked out by the computer afterwards.
