rulefan
Tour Winner
Never seen or heard of it.
Roll Up Group Handicaps
- Thread starter HomerJSimpson
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
In a way, that is how it works already, unless you have a counting score dropping off.Do you remember way back when, on a Society Day or similar if you beat your handicap, you "put the card in" for review. Some clubs would cut you, some never did. All very unscientific, but the intention and behaviour was going in the right direction.
I like the idea of GP Cards only ever counting if reducing your handicap. Won't stop the vanity handicap crew, but the sombrero wearers would have one tool removed.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Played the first roll up since this came to a head - 25 people entered - 25 put cards in. Hardest part was logging into PSI for some as the terminals weren't playing ball first thing. As I guessed, the handicap secretary and captain did an audit as well and I envisage will do so for a few weeks yet. Some muttering but it all worked and the world kept turning. Even the other Saturday group that weren't conforming are coming on board albeit in dribs and drabs.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
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HomerJSimpson
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A month in and every one that has played has submitted a card to date. Some quibbles in the first weeks but it has seemed to have settled into a routine
Tashyboy
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We had this sent in an email yesterday. I have openly asked on our group fuddle page for There thoughts. Most are of the view that it’s a friendly roll up fuddle and are not impressed. The odd thing is that Homer posted this in Feb, so why are some clubs later than others re trying to implement it. Was there no official guideline launch date.
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- Roll up / Fuddles - PLEASE ENTER YOUR SCORES AS GENERAL PLAY
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Most clubs will ignore it and people will carry on doing their social golf in the way that best fits their members
wjemather
Well-known member
This guidance has been in place since November 2020, when WHS was first implemented in GB&I.
It's simply taken 4 years for England Golf to be firmer in pressing clubs to enforce it.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
We had a whatsapp meltdown when I broached this. The club were very firm that the WHS guidelines were clear and general play cards should be submitted. I was nervous on week one what take up there would be but we got 100% (24/24) and have done since. I did over egg the pudding and told my lot they MUST (wording was should) submit GP cards. I think it was that subtle wording that stopped the arguing and a realisation that to play in the roll up they had to put cards in. Sometimes it is a case of doing what is necessary to get the majority on board and stragglers tend to follow for fear of not playing in the roll up
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Without exception they called it a "breakfast" ball. No idea of the connotation.
rulefan
Tour Winner
A breakfast ball is a Mulligan taken on the 1st tee. Generally the player is teeing off early in the morning and not had an opportunity to warm up.
Tashyboy
Please don’t ask to see my tatts 👍
And that I didn’t know, so why has it taken four years.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
It says “should” - not “must”And that I didn’t know, so why has it taken four years.
It’s always been known that if playing in an organised comp of sort under rules of golf etc etc you “should”
And clubs know they can’t “force” people to put cards in outside club comps
wjemather
Well-known member
Probably just a matter of priorities - the main focus has been trying to ensure clubs have a decent of the grasp the fundamentals.And that I didn’t know, so why has it taken four years.
wjemather
Well-known member
EG have been very clear that such scores must be submitted.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
It can when roll ups are seen as organised groups. The wording is very clear and the club were equally as clear with their guidance
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
And it’s just as easy to ignore it and add gimmies or play little matches
What are the club going to do - you pay money to be a member of the club and play on the course - they can’t dictate how you play your social golf
D-S
Well-known member
Just to be clear, scores from roll ups must only be submitted if the format is acceptable - i.e. individual strokeplay.
rulie
Head Pro
Presume that would include playing by the Rules of golf?
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Why would you do that as an organised group. The guidance is clear and you are going against what WHS is about. The club does have the power to try and persuade a group to change and it would have the power to suspend handicaps. It has already been discussed to death on here so why carry on arguing. All our groups had adopted GP cards and the world has kept turning
