Unless you're doing it wrong, (almost) all golf is social golf - official club competitions included. The impact is the non-effect on Handicap Indexes caused by the non-submission of acceptable scores that should be forming part of the players' handicap records.
Obfuscate all you like; we're talking about regular organised competitions, not a group of mates having a side bet in their weekly fourball.
I thought the discussion was about E.G. trying to mandate what occurs between a group who throw a few quid into the pot every weekend and have an agreement amongst themselves that winners get an unofficial cut the week after. E.G. appear to be dictating that would be classed as having 2 handicaps, no Colonel Warpington-Smythe, I have one handicap and this week I am knocking a couple of strokes off that because I won a tenner last weekend.
This doesnt stack up though. If it were a valid reason, then one could ask how did we manage at all before WHS. The truth is that it is not coming from a concern that handicaps would be distorted from non submission of roll up scores, but is coming from conforming to a new system for conformance sake alone. This is why it makes no sense, and the EG exhortation is seen for the hollowness that it is. The logic is - Americans put in cards all the time, so you must. And that isnt washing.
Your earlier description of your swindle was obviously that of of a regular organised competition not casual golf with a few sidebets.
First tee shot of the day goes badly, you get another.
It's basically a Mulligan on the first tee shot only, if you need it. Often given by groups who don't bother warming up I should think.
No I didn't and no I didn't.
For me all golf is social golf.
This is an example of how WHS hasnt been fully or well communicated. People in the UK are still posing questions like this.
Not in comps it wouldn't be, but then the majority of US golfers play 1 or 2 comps a year. Quite what does and does not occur in the handicap system is anyone's guess.
And that’s allowed within their comps and HC system ?
No. Not at all.
And that’s allowed within their comps and HC system ?
Tee times blocked out for a 'Roll-up' means this is regarded as 'official' by the Club so scores should defo go in...... back room fiddling for the money is pretty pointless if scores are routinely going in then H/caps will reflect results... rather time this 'old-boy' stuff was done with & welcome to the New-world of up-front golf!!Have read a fair bit, does feel like definitions shift about in different circumstances.
If say 8, 12, whatever, players are booking 2 or 3 tee times and sorting out by the tee or putting green the fun for the day and chucking a few coins in for that - feels like no change & no need. Club is oblivious.
Other end of spectrum, some clubs have known roll ups/swindles/whatever where the pro shop/club are complicit with putting tee times aside. Maybe passing contact details to new joiners etc. And these groups are say playing singles stableford for some cash. Then seems fairly sensible they become types of competition. Just seen as members organising them to take admin pressure away from club.
Then there's all the variations in between, where it becomes interesting...
Absolute stuff and nonsense, Our roll up times are blocked off so any member knows they can go and get a social game.
