Ryder Cup 2016 - Official Thread

[Papas1982]

When did I say it was ok to throw abuse at footballers ?

Just because a spectator pays to watch the players doesn't mean that he can act in anyway he wishes

Golf is a gentleman's game , it's full of respect for each other and the crowds are expected to be respectful to the players and other spectators - it is unacceptable to throw abuse or attempt to put off players by shouting when they are trying to play their shot. Golf is not a sport played in a stadium with a cheering crowd for 90mins - the crowd are appreciative of the play of the players and show that when they play good shots. When the player is about to take their shot then silence is required. That's not being pompous that showing the same etiquette players are expected to show. If someone can show that then the can leave the course and go and watch a sport where they can get away with hurling abuse at players

Where did I say YOU said it was ok? I said anyone.

amd again, you're nit the governing body. Pretty sure the PGA are happy to take the money from the fans who cheer and call for cheeseburgers as drives are smashed.

id imagine the fans at the Ryder cup are the same that watch other PGA events and are perfectly repectful. But during team events fans become more hostile.

Rory has already said he got fired up by it, and he's certainly played better with each round.

i accept close in his face an personal is out of line. But boing etc is fine by me. It's panto. Maybe if we'd lost so many events in recent history our fans would be trying to upset their players when over here. Although going by the repsonse to my opinion, it would appear not.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Sorry but a penalty isn't a fluid part of the game. The rest maybe, but when your stood at 12 yards at,osphere can clearly have an effect.

Rory just said himself that a loud crowd has fired him up.

Ok 2 seconds of a footy game isn't, but clutching at straws.

I argued a few years ago that it was okay for the crowd to sing songs at the Ryder cup and still believe it.

The rest of the yank behaviour is so far over the line though. Condone away, but golf, cricket and rugby have different codes of honour to football, and I say that as a footy fan.

WHy are the us players so embarrassed then?

 

[Papas1982]

People saying it happens at football stadiums so its ok?
Why should it be ok for footballers to take that abuse?

Quite simple. . Football is played by morons and supported by morons. I wouldn't expect anything else . However when i spectate in sports such as golf, cricket and rugby the elements of of class are lifted and such behaviour shouldn't be tolerated

Wow.

I'd rather share a drink with any of the rednecks of U S A cheering mob thansomeone that has such an elitist view.

 

[Papas1982]

Ok 2 seconds of a footy game isn't, but clutching at straws.

I argued a few years ago that it was okay for the crowd to sing songs at the Ryder cup and still believe it.

The rest of the yank behaviour is so far over the line though. Condone away, but golf, cricket and rugby have different codes of honour to football, and I say that as a footy fan.

WHy are the us players so embarrassed then?

im sure on occasion the us players are slightly embarrassed. And I fully understand that people still belive that golf fans are better than the scummy football fans.

I personally don't. nkt for the Ryder cup. All other events yes. But the Ryder cup is now bigged up as them against us and so hostility IMO was not only expected but adds to it.

Maybe be it's because I've only got into golf later in life and spent too long with my common folk friends and family.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

im sure on occasion the us players are slightly embarrassed. And I fully understand that people still belive that golf fans are better than the scummy football fans.

I personally don't. nkt for the Ryder cup. All other events yes. But the Ryder cup is now bigged up as them against us and so hostility IMO was not only expected but adds to it.

Maybe be it's because I've only got into golf later in life and spent too long with my common folk friends and family.

Nothing to do with background or age when started playing golf, it's basic common sense and respect, support your team in any sport, absolutely, but no need to behave like a dick.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Holmes splash!!!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Come on Westwood and Willett!

 

[Liverbirdie]

im sure on occasion the us players are slightly embarrassed. And I fully understand that people still belive that golf fans are better than the scummy football fans.

I personally don't. nkt for the Ryder cup. All other events yes. But the Ryder cup is now bigged up as them against us and so hostility IMO was not only expected but adds to it.

Maybe be it's because I've only got into golf later in life and spent too long with my common folk friends and family.

SO all bets are off and let any behaviour reign then?

Luckily our fans are better than that.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Personally I don't understand any of it.

Really enjoy the Ryder Cup as it is Matchplay and formats like 4BBB & Foursomes which we don't usually see the pro's play. Really attacking golf played by some of the world's best.

Fantastic to watch but I can honestly say I am not greatly bothered which side wins. Any partisanship I may have felt disappeared with all the jingoistic hype that has become attached to it by both sides and has increased massively in recent years.

 

[Papas1982]

Nothing to do with background or age when started playing golf, it's basic common sense and respect, support your team in any sport, absolutely, but no need to behave like a dick.

Ok. So have you ever jeered an opponent at goodison? Cursed one maybe?

For me, team sports invlolve crowd participation. Be that support or hostilities.
Personal attacks like the abuse to Mcirloy over steps, but generalised booing of a player when they hole out, or cheering when they miss is fine by me.

Im nit gonna change that view point.

so will respectfully bow out of the line of convo now as it's a distraction from the golf that I'm enjoying.

 

[Papas1982]

SO all bets are off and let any behaviour reign then?

Luckily our fans are better than that.

See above. Personal attacks no. Rest fair game.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Ok. So have you ever jeered an opponent at goodison? Cursed one maybe?

For me, team sports invlolve crowd participation. Be that support or hostilities.
Personal attacks like the abuse to Mcirloy over steps, but generalised booing of a player when they hole out, or cheering when they miss is fine by me.

Im nit gonna change that view point.

so will respectfully bow out of the line of convo now as it's a distraction from the golf that I'm enjoying.

I'm all for the crowd involvement, already said that, plus they serve beer from 9 in the morning so behaviour will deteriorate as alcohol intake rises.
It was the personal attack I was on about.

 

[Papas1982]

I'm all for the crowd involvement, already said that, plus they serve beer from 9 in the morning so behaviour will deteriorate as alcohol intake rises.
It was the personal attack I was on about.

Fair enough. Wires crossed somewhere then.

Persoanlly think 9am beers asking for trouble, but the amount most companies have to pay to sell at events like that (if run independantly) they have to maximise business hours.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Holmes splash!!!

Bugger!!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That is shocking from Westwood and Willett!

 

[351DRIVER]

There is something inevitable about the miss when Lee Westwood stands over putts, sure sometimes they go in, but you always think, oh dear it is Westwood

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Some really big blows there for the US - big half hour for them just gone

 

[Leereed]

Putting has been a major issue for the last three groups.Not good enough at this level.

 

[Wilson]

Poor from Westwood & Willet - sounded to me like there was a shout on Westwood's backswing?

DC must be wondering about his choice to play the above & Kaymer this afternoon.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Some really big blows there for the US - big half hour for them just gone

Yep. Unfortunately it could be this past hour that decides the outcome of the match. Not sure we've got enough in the team to come back from a deficit in the singles tomorrow. Going in all square we'd struggle and even with a small lead I wouldn't be confident. I hope I'm proved wrong and that we have a strong showing in the singles tomorrow but at the minute I'm fearing the worst.