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I so don't get this logic. We hear it all the time at football stadiums. Why are we so precious about our golfers?
Look at the link Phil posted, it was while he was walking from Green to Tee, foul mouthed personal abuse and women stood around, would you accept it in the street off a stranger?
 

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SO it's okay to shout on someone's backswing then?

Is it ok for thousands to boo and jeer as a penalty is taken?

i fully accept it can be off putting, and if it was every tournament I'd say it was too much. But in a team event, the fans are part of it. Cross the line with foul abuse and fair enough they should go. But, whilst I accept. Last don't like it. For me, it's not an issue. I recall bubba and poults getting the crowd to make noise. Some like it, others (most) don't.
 

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Look at the link Phil posted, it was while he was walking from Green to Tee, foul mouthed personal abuse and women stood around, would you accept it in the street off a stranger?

I accept that probably overstrepped the mark. But, it wasn't just put in the street. The course is the equivalent of a stadium. And you hear plenty worse at all stadiums Saturday afternoon.
 
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I accept that probably overstrepped the mark. But, it wasn't just put in the street. The course is the equivalent of a stadium. And you hear plenty worse at all stadiums Saturday afternoon.
Rubbish, he didn't try shouting banter, it was personal and abusive and from 3-4 feet away, it wasn't some strange voice in the crowd,
 

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Because that's football and this is golf and I'm sure you being a golfer can understand the difference between the two sports and how the crowds are expected to act

If golf crowds start to become like football crowds where it's common to throw abuse after abuse at players then the sport has gone to the dogs.

You don't throw abuse at golfers - it's as simple as that , it's a golf course not a football ground


And there is another spectator ( they aren't supporters or fans ) thrown out after abusing Stenson as he was about to putt

If you believe it's acceptable to throw abuse at a golfer then stick to football

Get off your high horse.

you don't tell me how I can choose to view an event be that football, golf or tiddlywinks.

If anyone thinks it's ok how footballers get given abuse, but not golfers then I suggest you stop being such pompous hypocrites and accept that supporters pay the players wages in effect and so they should roll their sleeves up accept it as part of the game.

That or or we go back to the game with low viewing figures and low prize funds whilst the mass American market stops funding the game.
 

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Is it ok for thousands to boo and jeer as a penalty is taken?

i fully accept it can be off putting, and if it was every tournament I'd say it was too much. But in a team event, the fans are part of it. Cross the line with foul abuse and fair enough they should go. But, whilst I accept. Last don't like it. For me, it's not an issue. I recall bubba and poults getting the crowd to make noise. Some like it, others (most) don't.

YEs, football is a fluid game.

golf isn't. It's a game of concentration. shall we allow smoke flares, drums and bangers as well?

GEt your Ryder cup voovoozelas here.......
 

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YEs, football is a fluid game.

golf isn't. It's a game of concentration. shall we allow smoke flares, drums and bangers as well?

GEt your Ryder cup voovoozelas here.......

Sorry but a penalty isn't a fluid part of the game. The rest maybe, but when your stood at 12 yards at,osphere can clearly have an effect.

Rory just said himself that a loud crowd has fired him up.
 
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Really need Westwood and Willett not to lose and let's hope Rose and Stenson can pull it off.
 

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People saying it happens at football stadiums so its ok?
Why should it be ok for footballers to take that abuse?

Quite simple. . Football is played by morons and supported by morons. I wouldn't expect anything else . However when i spectate in sports such as golf, cricket and rugby the elements of of class are lifted and such behaviour shouldn't be tolerated
 
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Get off your high horse.

you don't tell me how I can choose to view an event be that football, golf or tifflywinks.

If anyone thinks it's ok how footballers get given abuse, but not golfers then I suggest you stop being so pompous and accept that supporters pay the players wages in effect and so they should roll their sleeves up.

When did I say it was ok to throw abuse at footballers ?

Just because a spectator pays to watch the players doesn't mean that he can act in anyway he wishes

Golf is a gentleman's game , it's full of respect for each other and the crowds are expected to be respectful to the players and other spectators - it is unacceptable to throw abuse or attempt to put off players by shouting when they are trying to play their shot. Golf is not a sport played in a stadium with a cheering crowd for 90mins - the crowd are appreciative of the play of the players and show that when they play good shots. When the player is about to take their shot then silence is required. That's not being pompous that showing the same etiquette players are expected to show. If someone can show that then the can leave the course and go and watch a sport where they can get away with hurling abuse at players

Just because football crowds stoop to the lowest level doesn't mean other sports follow on
 
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Sorry but a penalty isn't a fluid part of the game. The rest maybe, but when your stood at 12 yards at,osphere can clearly have an effect.

Rory just said himself that a loud crowd has fired him up.
No one is saying the whole crowd should be quiet, there's a time and place, but at no time in any sport is personal abuse acceptable.
Look at the behaviour of 80,000 fans in a Rugby Stadium when a kick is being taken, are they all wrong as it doesn't happen in football? Football is not the benchmark for spectator behaviour.
 
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People saying it happens at football stadiums so its ok?
Why should it be ok for footballers to take that abuse?

Quite simple. . Football is played by morons and supported by morons. I wouldn't expect anything else . However when i spectate in sports such as golf, cricket and rugby the elements of of class are lifted and such behaviour shouldn't be tolerated
Steady on the football insults please, I'm certainly no moron.
 
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