Random Irritations

[Fade and Die]

Exactly, those who cry for capital punishment who will carry it out?

Anyone who wants to carry it out shouldn't be doing it , psychopathic

Let natural punishment inside take place

Indeed, Retribution is seen by many as an acceptable reason for the death penalty. And public executions always attracted a big crowd (still do in countries that carry out public executions) but is there a place in a modern society for the old fashioned principal of "lex talionis” (an eye for an eye)? Not for me.

And that’s before we get onto the subject of “Do you trust the State to do it justly?” and “Unsafe convictions”!

 

[PJ87]

Indeed, Retribution is seen by many as an acceptable reason for the death penalty. And public executions always attracted a big crowd (still do in countries that carry out public executions) but is there a place in a modern society for the old fashioned principal of "lex talionis” (an eye for an eye)? Not for me.

And that’s before we get onto the subject of “Do you trust the State to do it justly?” and “Unsafe convictions”!

Considering the level of corruption in the police alone recently (apologies to any servicing officers on here we know it's not you) I wouldn't trust them at all right now

 

[stefanovic]

Grand National day.
Chance of horses being 'put-down'.
Some whipped to the line.
Won't be watching.

 

[SaintHacker]

Let natural punishment inside take place

Is the correct answer. Stop segregating child molesters/killers for their own protection and the problem will go away of its own accord

 

[Slime]

I'm inclined to agree. In the moment "rid us of the evil gits" seems appropriate but, in reality, it's barbaric. Any programmes I watch about Death Row always, but always, leave me feeling it's just not right.

I would argue that what they did to a defenceless baby was barbaric, I would also argue that a lethal injection isn't.

 

[PJ87]

I would argue that what they did to a defenceless baby was barbaric, I would also argue that a lethal injection isn't.

Who is going to administer it? That's the entire point .. if anyone wants the job they A shouldn't be in the job B are psychopathic

These people are monsters nobody would argue that but the death penalty has no place in civilised society

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Who is going to administer it? That's the entire point .. if anyone wants the job they A shouldn't be in the job B are psychopathic

These people are monsters nobody would argue that but the death penalty has no place in civilised society

So if it was your Son or Daughter that got harmed by a stranger how would you feel?

Still the same?

Life on death row on BBC a few years ago made me think for sure. A great documentary into death row in the states.

 

[PJ87]

So if it was your Son or Daughter that got harmed by a stranger how would you feel?

Still the same?

Life on death row on BBC a few years ago made me think for sure. A great documentary into death row in the states.

Yes.

There is no question.

I'm not arguing that these people are scum , I'm stating a fact that capital punishment has no place in the civilised world.

Not to mentioned false convictions

 

[Slime]

Yes.

There is no question.

I'm not arguing that these people are scum , I'm stating a fact that capital punishment has no place in the civilised world.

Not to mentioned false convictions

But keeping them alive for many years and then releasing them with the possibility of re-offending has?

 

[Fade and Die]

So if it was your Son or Daughter that got harmed by a stranger how would you feel?

Still the same?

Life on death row on BBC a few years ago made me think for sure. A great documentary into death row in the states.

Nope, I’d want to kill whoever hurt my children, but that’s the thing, they are my children, it’s a natural response. The state executing someone is a different thing.

 

[PJ87]

But keeping them alive for many years and then releasing them with the possibility of re-offending has?

Life in prison. Completely different from a life sentence

Never to be released.

It's the morally correct decision

 

[Fade and Die]

In the US where there are endless appeals. Quick google show’s average time on death row 12 years…In China it’s firing squad next day, no appeals. And in Singapore you are allowed 1 appeal, if it’s unsuccessful then you are hung right away. I think that’s how it used to be in Britain too. Average time spent on death row 3-8 weeks.

 

[PJ87]

That’s only in the US where there are endless appeals. Quick google show’s average time on death row 12 years…In China it’s firing squad next day, no appeals. And in Singapore you are allowed 1 appeal, if it’s unsuccessful then you are hung right away. I think that’s how it used to be in Britain too. Average time spent on death row 3-8 weeks.

I'd rather keep alive 300 monsters locked away forever than kill one innocent person who the system failed.

 

[Fade and Die]

I'd rather keep alive 300 monsters locked away forever than kill one innocent person who the system failed.

I do think we need more “you’re gonna die in jail” sentences though. The “life sentences” and out in 14 years does the justice system no favours

 

[PJ87]

I do think we need more “you’re gonna die in jail” sentences though. The “life sentences” and out in 14 years does the justice system no favours

Tougher sentencing defo get on board with

Especially with things like even carrying a knife. Make the sentence a real deterrent

 

[cliveb]

Apparently capital punishment is barbaric and has no place in a civilised society.
And yet the same people putting forward that argument seem happy with the thought that these type of offenders should be placed into prison with a whole life sentence, never to be released, and face the "natural justice" of their fellow inmates - potentially for decades.
I suggest that is far more barbaric than humane capital punishment.

I absolutely agree that if there is the smallest iota of doubt about their guilt, they must not face a death penalty.
But when it is 100% clear that the offender is guilty and has committed a heinous crime, perhaps the kindest thing for them is to end it swiftly rather than subject them to misery for the rest of their lives. (And as a bonus, the state saves all that money they would have spent trying to protect them while in prison).

 

[AJNairn]

Apparently capital punishment is barbaric and has no place in a civilised society.
And yet the same people putting forward that argument seem happy with the thought that these type of offenders should be placed into prison with a whole life sentence, never to be released, and face the "natural justice" of their fellow inmates - potentially for decades.
I suggest that is far more barbaric than humane capital punishment.

I absolutely agree that if there is the smallest iota of doubt about their guilt, they must not face a death penalty.
But when it is 100% clear that the offender is guilty and has committed a heinous crime, perhaps the kindest thing for them is to end it swiftly rather than subject them to misery for the rest of their lives. (And as a bonus, the state saves all that money they would have spent trying to protect them while in prison).

So you are doing them a favour by killing them??

 

[PJ87]

Apparently capital punishment is barbaric and has no place in a civilised society.
And yet the same people putting forward that argument seem happy with the thought that these type of offenders should be placed into prison with a whole life sentence, never to be released, and face the "natural justice" of their fellow inmates - potentially for decades.
I suggest that is far more barbaric than humane capital punishment.

I absolutely agree that if there is the smallest iota of doubt about their guilt, they must not face a death penalty.
But when it is 100% clear that the offender is guilty and has committed a heinous crime, perhaps the kindest thing for them is to end it swiftly rather than subject them to misery for the rest of their lives. (And as a bonus, the state saves all that money they would have spent trying to protect them while in prison).

So in your situation someone wants to die. However can't bring themselves to end their life

Just kill someone random on film, admit it , cheers ..

It shouldn't even be a question

Those who want it, have a proper look at yourself.

 

[Slime]

Those who want it, have a proper look at yourself.

Thanks, but I don't need to.

 

[Captainron]

Idiots protesting the Grand National.