Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Agree wholeheartedly.
Dress codes
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Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
While many of us will just comply, change is inevitable. Sometimes change will come about through a formal stated route (written submissions for an AGM etc) and sometimes it’ll be kicked off by peaceful dissention and/or non-compliance due to the discord
Providing the dissent doesn’t take the form of causing anyone physical or emotional harm then its kinda one of the things we’re allowed to do aren’t we? Afterall we’re talking about ppl breaching a dress code, not breaking a law of the land
That non-compliance may carry a penalty/sanction, the risk of which those involved need to be prepared to accept
(but we play a game where the risk of penalty is ever present for every single shot we take, so as a section of society we're well equipped to deal with that possible outcome)
Change does not only happen through formal channels
Providing the dissent doesn’t take the form of causing anyone physical or emotional harm then its kinda one of the things we’re allowed to do aren’t we? Afterall we’re talking about ppl breaching a dress code, not breaking a law of the land
That non-compliance may carry a penalty/sanction, the risk of which those involved need to be prepared to accept
(but we play a game where the risk of penalty is ever present for every single shot we take, so as a section of society we're well equipped to deal with that possible outcome)
Change does not only happen through formal channels
Albo
Well-known member
Where as I would rather my son be confident enough to stand up and respectfully challenge something he feels isn’t right.
Things change, life changes thing are not the same today as they once were.
Many years ago I was a member of a work golf society, we were visiting a golf club and had a lovely day, afterwards we went for a meal in their dining room, all sat down to eat when one of the old guard from the club came into the room and spoke with the guy who was head of our society to politely tell him that the single female member of our society was not allowed in that room as it was a male only room and asked for her to leave the room saying she could sit alone in a separate room. It was a rule, do you think we as a society should have just nodded and agreed that rules are rules and let her go sit alone in the other room? Did you really want your son to lean to have respect for rules that don’t deserve to be respected, just because they are written down?
I know what I’d rather
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
It’s a huge leap from someone not wanting to tuck their shirt in, to not displaying respect for teachers and doctors! And should we not be respectful of everyone who is well behaved.
It might be a generational thing. But, sweeping generalisations about one generation or another do not go well.
At some point your generation must have decided that wearing a tweed suit with a shirt and tie was not appropriate golf attire!
IanM
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I think you should wear what you like, but expect to miss out on some really nice courses that have dress codes that don't suit you.
I guess we'll have a few withdrawals from H4H as West Surrey ask you to tuck your shirt in....
I guess we'll have a few withdrawals from H4H as West Surrey ask you to tuck your shirt in....
D-S
Well-known member
A genuine question (for context, I am always a shirt tucked in person but wouldn’t prevent others playing sport who don’t do as I do) - how come an untucked shirt is scruffy and unacceptable on the golf course but acceptable as part of a ‘smart casual’ dress code when a shirt is untucked with trousers indoors. What is the difference?
IanM
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Maybe they are equally scruffy? I'd tuck my shirt in for smart casual regardless. Hawaiian shirts stay out! 
Tuck your shirt in man!
I've just been reading a similar thread from 2011. No difference at all. Only some names that have left
Tuck your shirt in man!
I've just been reading a similar thread from 2011. No difference at all. Only some names that have left
chrisd
Major Champion
Several years back, when I was a committee member there was discussion as to why the functions were attended by the older age groups in the main. I said that it was, in my opinion, due to the archaic dress code and that when they had live music that the requirement for men to wear their shirts tucked in was out dated, given that most men up to 40 years of age had probably never ever tucked their shirts in when out socially. It still took a long time but eventually a very much more relaxed dress code was introduced, including the wearing of jeans and trainers.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I will simply claim I identify as a woman, since they get a free pass it seems.I guess we'll have a few withdrawals from H4H as West Surrey ask you to tuck your shirt in....
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I managed municipal golf courses for many years.
Our dress code consisted of one short sentence.
'Golfers are asked to wear clothing and shoes suitable for the sport'
Never really had much of a problem with that over 20+ years
Mind you, in the late 1990's a young lad turned up to play in a multi coloured summer shirt and shorts combo.
The Pro asked me if I was Ok with that.
I said yeah, thought it was quite smart actually
He agreed.
He went on to wear County, England, Walker Cup and Ryder Cup dress codes.
Our dress code consisted of one short sentence.
'Golfers are asked to wear clothing and shoes suitable for the sport'
Never really had much of a problem with that over 20+ years
Mind you, in the late 1990's a young lad turned up to play in a multi coloured summer shirt and shorts combo.
The Pro asked me if I was Ok with that.
I said yeah, thought it was quite smart actually
He agreed.
He went on to wear County, England, Walker Cup and Ryder Cup dress codes.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Builders bum when they bend down to pick up their ball!
Arthur Wedge
Active member
Humans and their differing standards
I don’t personally think it’s “scruffy” - a lot of tops are made to be “untucked” but i personally when playing have it tucked it , that’s just a preference regardless of what the rule is
Whilst we all having different standards it’s always worth remembering that those differing standards will be reflected in what a club wants people to wear and for me the basic point is when visiting a club you adhere to their standards even if they don’t fit yours
arnieboy
Challenge Tour Pro
What was the outcome ?
Albo
Well-known member
We all went and sat in the room with her.
We never returned to the club as a society
And most sadly of all she never returned to the society again after that day as she was embarrassed/felt she had put everyone out and caused a fuss.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Just musing, if Rory or Scottie or another famous golf pro turns up at your club with their shirt untucked and asked to play there’s not a cat in hells chance they get turned away due to some archaic policy.
Bobthesock
Active member
She was putting everyone out by being there In the first place. Playing from different tees, not getting the ball more than 20 feet in the air.
Of course ladies should be welcome at all courses but it dosnt mean I want to play with them
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
Like when they played practice rounds at RSG before the open?
Arthur Wedge
Active member
Did the society speak to the course before hand to ensure there would be no issues ?
Beezerk
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BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
Why would anyone think to ask if a woman would be allowed in a dining room?
