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Some finish to T20 finals day. The blast continues to deliver despite every hurdle thrown in its way

How good could it be if the ECB actually showed faith in the product?

Add Bairstow, Root, Willey, Rashid, Buttler and Livingstone in the mix...

Go one furter, scrap the 100 and finance the counties to get top overseas players...
 

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Some finish to T20 finals day. The blast continues to deliver despite every hurdle thrown in its way

You can stick your franchise rubbish where the sun dont shine!

PS Nathan Ellis is some bowler (despite the penultimate ball!!!)
Actually, apart from the no-ball on the last delivery. it was pretty tame. Somerset should have knocked that meagre total off with overs to spare! It simply doesn't compare with IPL, which is ok, except that ECB seem to be promoting it as an alternative to IPL! Until England can produce wickets that encourage batsman to be aggressive, such comps will just be as tame as this was!
 

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Far too logical but how true

As you say, far too logical.

There is muttering in the chambers of power that attendances were down this year. Well,when (taking my county, Yorkshire, as an example) you schedule 6 or 7 home games within 15 days, what do you expect?

A four week window from early July. Subsidies for 3 Overseas per team and no England players rested, you have a competition that rivals any. Remember, the IPL excels at spectacle but the actual quality of cricket is pretty stinky on occasions.
 

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Great finish to Blast.. now waiting for undred ..

On another note.. thoughts on this? Should this be allowed or not? Was this picked up on live TV? I can understand this in the 100 but not so much in the spirit for longer format. You can argue this has always happened with the 12th man running on. Remember Cronje and his ear piece ..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/c...t-secret-balcony-code-slammed-used-Lords.html
 

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So at what point do the ECB wake up about the utterly ridiculous schedule?

Their star player (and test captain) has now retired from ODIs and is not playing this summers vanity project, having had some time out of the game last year too.


when they will realise its just not sustainable and theyre doing more harm
 

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So at what point do the ECB wake up about the utterly ridiculous schedule?

Their star player (and test captain) has now retired from ODIs and is not playing this summers vanity project, having had some time out of the game last year too.


when they will realise its just not sustainable and theyre doing more harm

Never, whilst there’s so much money in the white ball game.
 

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Actually, apart from the no-ball on the last delivery. it was pretty tame. Somerset should have knocked that meagre total off with overs to spare! It simply doesn't compare with IPL, which is ok, except that ECB seem to be promoting it as an alternative to IPL! Until England can produce wickets that encourage batsman to be aggressive, such comps will just be as tame as this was!
So Yorkshire and Lancashire both score over 200 in their semi and the wicket didn't encourage aggressive batting?!?!?!? Not sure what scores you were seeing in the IPL :eek:
 

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So at what point do the ECB wake up about the utterly ridiculous schedule?

Their star player (and test captain) has now retired from ODIs and is not playing this summers vanity project, having had some time out of the game last year too.


when they will realise its just not sustainable and theyre doing more harm

Getting just as bad in rugby now except the clubs still have to pay player wages and then the international money is a nice bonus on top and hence why all the calls are for players to play less club rugby by extending rest periods rather than perhaps not playing in every single international match or going on every tour (players are not going to turn down 20k per match with England). Sadly can see that going the same way, centrally contracted players and club rugby being only watched by a few devout fans in the same way as County Cricket.
 

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So at what point do the ECB wake up about the utterly ridiculous schedule?

Their star player (and test captain) has now retired from ODIs and is not playing this summers vanity project, having had some time out of the game last year too.


when they will realise its just not sustainable and theyre doing more harm

simple answer >> not really.

long answer >> You can look at it in a different way. While losing Stokes is a big loss, but it is also an opportunity. Opportunity for the others to make a mark and a living playing cricket. There is no need for Stokes to play every format, but there are others who need a spot to showecase their skills. We want the next generation of Livingstone, Salts, Parkinsons to come thru. White ball Cricket will get sub-fragmented - ODI/T20/100... each with its own specialists and audience. It may grown the game, but it will allow new players to emerge. Some of them will move up the chain.

The IPL is a great example of this. As Justin Langer once said, when you have a billion people and only 11 can play, they better be the best. With the IPL, it brought in players from non-descript counties and their performance forced them into the other formats. Bhumra, started off as a Mumbai Indian player and now is a Test player. He did not come thru the traditional route. Same with Pandya brothers. Suddenly instead of 11 players, IPL can provide opportunity to have 8-10 teams + support. It now supports a lot of new players who would never had made it to the national team.

Who knows we might unearth the next English Bhumra or Livingstone that can make the transition to red ball cricket.
 

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So Yorkshire and Lancashire both score over 200 in their semi and the wicket didn't encourage aggressive batting?!?!?!? Not sure what scores you were seeing in the IPL :eek:
That's the sort of wicket that should have been used for the Final.
The other Semi wasn't quite as good, but scores were certainly better than in the final. Mind you, there were quite a few pretty rash strokes played too!
 
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