2019 Cricket

[Mudball]

Restricted by how badly the teams recruit their overseas players too (massive over dependence on Aussie players from Aussie coaches not to mention overvalued Saffers and English). Sure I read somewhere 5 of the top 8 T20 batters in the world rankings werent at the the IPL this year for various reasons, not all as straightforward as they should be

It’s commercial cricket.. never going to be straightforward. The idea is to get big hitters and quickies. Hence you see Aussie, windies and Kiwi batsman plus Aussie and Rabada. The English (other than KP) did not want to participate.

Given Rajasthan Royal is partly owned by a British businessman, not surprised to see most of the English guy in RR. Now they are moving to other franchises. Absolutely loved Curran at the IPL, pretty much carried his side around. I won’t be surprised if his price goes up next year. Good for the lad. I am sure someone will put money behind Archer next year

 

[fundy]

It’s commercial cricket.. never going to be straightforward. The idea is to get big hitters and quickies. Hence you see Aussie, windies and Kiwi batsman plus Aussie and Rabada. The English (other than KP) did not want to participate.

Given Rajasthan Royal is partly owned by a British businessman, not surprised to see most of the English guy in RR. Now they are moving to other franchises. Absolutely loved Curran at the IPL, pretty much carried his side around. I won’t be surprised if his price goes up next year. Good for the lad. I am sure someone will put money behind Archer next year

The draft one of the biggest shams in sport lol, several sides totally mismanaged IF the objective is to assemble the best squad and playing XI for the franchise. But hey, not all about the sport is it.....

 

[Tongo]

I think the IPL the Indian talent by restricting the number of overseas players on the field. It has led to the discovery of a lot of exciting talent. Bhumra was discovered by IPL and then made the Indian debut. Otherwise the rich clubs would just buy the next trophy. (Unpopular opinion) I think there is something that the premier league missed out and we see the big 6 edging everyone out by sheer money muscle.

Not letting Pakistani players is a political question. They used to be in the IPL opening season before Pak decided to undertake military adventures into India

Of course they've discovered some decent players. But there's also some bang average players as well that are little more than cannon fodder for the insatiable desire for 6's.

I know why Pakistani players aren't involved, but the fact remains that no league is able to get all of the best players together at any one time (for whatever reasons) so the standard of each league varies dramatically. Somewhat bizarrely, all T20 stats are lumped together by those who collate these things whereas international stats and domestic stats are kept separate for first-class and 50 over comps. For me, this further muddies the waters of the level of quality in T20 cricket.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Whilst it’s easy to dismiss T20 it’s also worth noting that many counties survive because of T20 and indeed some test nations need T20

 

[Tongo]

Whilst it’s easy to dismiss T20 it’s also worth noting that many counties survive because of T20 and indeed some test nations need T20

It has but counties now surely employ a greater number of players to cover the three formats then they would have done in the past. For instance, years gone by would have seen each county employ an overseas player for the whole season. Now they sign / play numerous different overseas players for parts of the season including T20 specialists. And i would imagine that the salaries for 3 different players covering 3 different parts of the season would be significantly higher than one salary for one overseas player for the whole season. So more income but one would imagine greater outlay on salaries.

 

[Mudball]

Watched the highlights of Aus v India T20 at Sydney today... India chased down 195... while easy to dismiss the bowling, the sheer batting talent from both sides and the brute strength & timing to hit a sixes into the Sydney second tier is unbelievable.
Gone are the days of a David Boon opening the batting, one of the biggest thing with this generation is the amazing fitness levels of these players. Stoinis looks like he is ready for rugby

 

[fundy]

Watched the highlights of Aus v India T20 at Sydney today... India chased down 195... while easy to dismiss the bowling, the sheer batting talent from both sides and the brute strength & timing to hit a sixes into the Sydney second tier is unbelievable.
Gone are the days of a David Boon opening the batting, one of the biggest thing with this generation is the amazing fitness levels of these players. Stoinis looks like he is ready for rugby

yeah but can he drink 50 tins on a transatlantic flight and walk off at the other end

 

[Mudball]

yeah but can he drink 50 tins on a transatlantic flight and walk off at the other end

i hear Zampa is mad about his coffee and travels with his own coffee machine... not a reputation for an Aussie man..

 

[sunshine]

so standards have been reduced to make it more exciting (to some), i can see why some might think thats an improvement but not for me

I don't believe that standards at test level have been reduced. The game has evolved. Australia started it 20 years ago when they decided to up the scoring rate and blew everyone away. They had an amazingly talented team to do this, but they recognised that aggressive scoring put them in a position to win matches. Every other test nation has followed suit, some teams (including England) have taken it too far at times and been punished.

If you pitted an old school test team against a modern team, Boycott v Stokes approach, the modern team would come out on top more often.

 

[greenone]

If you pitted an old school test team against a modern team, Boycott v Stokes approach, the modern team would come out on top more often.

Depends on the pitch. On a flat modern one yes, on a pitch that has a bit in it like they generally did back in the day the more patient approach would win imo.

 

[Paperboy]

i hear Zampa is mad about his coffee and travels with his own coffee machine... not a reputation for an Aussie man..

Apparently some of the quicks are in a group with him just about coffee

 

[sunshine]

Depends on the pitch. On a flat modern one yes, on a pitch that has a bit in it like they generally did back in the day the more patient approach would win imo.

I understand why you would say that. England have certainly been guilty of a reckless approach at times when the pitch demanded more respect.

The flip side is that they only need one partnership to get going and they take the game away from the opposition.

To be fair, all the good test teams in recent years have still featured batsmen who can grind out a score. You need a balance.

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Great effort from India to total 36 all out in the 2nd innings against the Aussies

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Great effort from India to total 36 all out in the 2nd innings against the Aussies

I think they were surprised to find that an innings could last longer than 20 overs. (Although only just? for their second inns)