(Sorry this has been done to death) The solution to slow play is slow play

[FairwayDodger]

Changing tack slightly I have recently discovered another cause of slow play. This is probably not news but it was something I hadn't realised before.

I bought an electric trolley and have used it instead of my push trolley for the last few rounds. There is no doubt that it slows me down walking between shots. I think it's part of the reason golf is slower nowadays than it was 20 or 30 years ago - nobody had electric trolleys back then but they are fairly ubiquitous now.

 

[3565]

I agree. I'm fortunate in that I don't have too many ties and HID is happy for me to spend as much time as I want playing and being at the club. Also we're fortunate that a slow round, even in a medal is usually no more than four hours (four and a half on a rare occurrence). I've no issues with that and normally never feels like you've been out there forever.

We tend to play ready golf in our roll ups and it does keep play moving. However not so keen in a comp. I've had occasions when a player, thinking he's helping, has played (technically out of turn) while I'm over the ball. Very distracting and I prefer to play in order (still no excuse for not being ready to play when it's your turn).

Agree with you Homer. It won't be long before we see 3-4 balls all flying into the green at the same time.......a bit extreme I know, but I still like the traditions of this great game. You start at 1st and end on 18th, and the time it takes is what it is. its out of my control in front or behind, but I can influence those I play with.

 

[PJ87]

Agreed, electric trolleys whilst a god send defo slow down the play a tad. Carrying is the quickest for sure but last time I carried around a "proper course" (rather than a nice flat course) I had back ache for 3 days

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Changing tack slightly I have recently discovered another cause of slow play. This is probably not news but it was something I hadn't realised before.

I bought an electric trolley and have used it instead of my push trolley for the last few rounds. There is no doubt that it slows me down walking between shots. I think it's part of the reason golf is slower nowadays than it was 20 or 30 years ago - nobody had electric trolleys back then but they are fairly ubiquitous now.

Trolleys do cause issues - especially when some people appear to be connected to them and take them right up their ball wherever it is. Also where people park them when putting out.

Would also add range finders etc - people zapping the flag over 200 yards when they can't reach or from 20 yards etc

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Agreed, electric trolleys whilst a god send defo slow down the play a tad. Carrying is the quickest for sure but last time I carried around a "proper course" (rather than a nice flat course) I had back ache for 3 days

Not sure I entirely agree and seen lots of golfers leave their carry bags in some very bad positions which causes delays when leaving for the next tee. It's the same with trollies too though. Common sense (or better education) seems lacking at times and it's these little niggle that can add five to ten minutes to a round without any effort at all

 

[3565]

Electric trollies slow!!!

Mine goes from 0-9, if I put it on 9 I'd be jogging behind it, so 7-8 is a good pace with mine and it sure goes a lot quicker then players carrying I know.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Electric trollies slow!!!

Mine goes from 0-9, if I put it on 9 I'd be jogging behind it, so 7-8 is a good pace with mine and it sure goes a lot quicker then players carrying I know.

It's not that it goes slow when at top speed but it's slower in a lot of situations. Maybe I'll get slicker when I get the hang of it!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It's not that it goes slow when at top speed but it's slower in a lot of situations. Maybe I'll get slicker when I get the hang of it!

We'll have a Trolley race at Trump :whoo:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We'll have a Trolley race at Trump :whoo:

I've now got a picture of you all lining up in my head, the Chain in the background and all screeching off down the first. Needs to be done and videoed

 

[FairwayDodger]

We'll have a Trolley race at Trump :whoo:

Don't I can crash it even when not racing! I keep speeding it up when I want to slow down....

 

[pokerjoke]

Changing tack slightly I have recently discovered another cause of slow play. This is probably not news but it was something I hadn't realised before.

I bought an electric trolley and have used it instead of my push trolley for the last few rounds. There is no doubt that it slows me down walking between shots. I think it's part of the reason golf is slower nowadays than it was 20 or 30 years ago - nobody had electric trolleys back then but they are fairly ubiquitous now.

Trolleys do cause issues - especially when some people appear to be connected to them and take them right up their ball wherever it is. Also where people park them when putting out.

Would also add range finders etc - people zapping the flag over 200 yards when they can't reach or from 20 yards etc

We are clutching at straws now are we not.

Seriously if we think these couple of examples take an extra 5 minutes in the grand scale of slow play its time for you to find another sport.

 

[FairwayDodger]

We are clutching at straws now are we not.

Seriously if we think these couple of examples take an extra 5 minutes in the grand scale of slow play its time for you to find another sport.

Well I guess that's it for me then. Electric trolley rather than push slows me down fairly significantly... and carrying is faster than pushing....

Didn't mean to upset anyone, just my observation after my first 4 or 5 rounds with the leccy trolley.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Well I guess that's it for me then. Electric trolley rather than push slows me down fairly significantly... and carrying is faster than pushing....

Didn't mean to upset anyone, just my observation after my first 4 or 5 rounds with the leccy trolley.

By the end of Trump we'll be doing synchronised Trolley dancing

 

[Crocodile JD]

I understand the OP's meaning to be nothing more than "If you can't beat em join em"
I'm sure by the way the post is written it is not meant to be advocating slow play and I sense they would much rather play at a better pace but sometimes you just have no way of beating it, I know. I play at the Belfry and sometimes it can be an utter nightmare with golfers of "all abilities" and an "I've paid my money so I'll take as long as I want to " attitude. I empathise and feel that I understand the sentiment in the post

 

[3565]

We'll have a Trolley race at Trump :whoo:

I best write to Adrian Newey and find out what front wings I need then..........

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I best write to Adrian Newey and find out what front wings I need then..........

Don't forget to sort a good pit crew for the mandatory wheel change

 

[delc]

I played twice this weekend as the missus was out and about for the majority of the weekend. Lucky me.

Sat tee time was 9.30am - 2 ball.

Sun tee time 7.10am (3rd out) - 3 ball.

Both rounds were almost 5 hours. Hoebridge GC in Woking btw.

Saturday saw us play through a 4 ball on the 3rd hole. This meant we bumped into a 3 ball ahead, who weren't being played through another 3 ball, who weren't being played through by 2 4balls with buggies. Needless to say, come the back 9, my head, heart and anything else I might of had had left me.

Sunday, and here's the kicker, a 4 ball rocked up without a tee time and were let out in front of us. So our 7.10am became 7.20am. Fourball ahead had 2 buggies. Took almost 30 mins to play the 1st (par5). We asked to play through them on the 7th, and they sounded disgusted that I'd suggested it, even though they were a hole behind. By the time we got to the 10th, they caught up with the 4 ball on foot ahead. No letting through.

I was angry. I felt like a weekend of great weather and good course condition was wasted. Until we decided to take our time on the 16th hole.

We all walked to each others balls, no "ready golf". We all watched putts, chatted, looked for lost balls for a full 5 mins etc. The final 3 holes on Sunday were the best of the weekend.

I know a lot of you might argue we were irresponsible to do this, as it will have only held up the people behind us further. But there has to be a point where you put your own enjoyment of the game in front of others.

So the solution to slow play, is to play slow. Much much better golf, less waiting on shots (we waited on almost every shot all weekend), and generally not winding myself up about the rude / irresponsible / un-etiquetted(??) golfers on the course.

I actually left the course Sunday wishing that I didn't care about slow play as much as I do (I used to think it didn't bother me) and thinking that maybe next week I should play the whole round slow, so I get enjoyment out of my own game.

Buggies do not speed up play despite the fact they can travel at up to 20 mph! If two players are sharing one buggy they can be really slow, especially if one is a slicer and the other one is a hooker, in which case you have to factor in a lot of of sideways travel!

 

[3565]

Don't forget to sort a good pit crew for the mandatory wheel change

We could be onto something here. :thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We could be onto something here. :thup:

Gokart v Motocaddy v Powakaddy, v Stewart v The field. Place your bets now

 

[Hobbit]

Ready golf is the way to go

We will be sending notices out to the membership that we would like them to play ready golf where ever possible

Some of our older generation aren't happy with it

I absolutely HATE this solution!!

I don't doubt for one minute it works but it masks the symptom rather than curing it. Drop the 60sec Pre-Shot Routine you learned from watching the pros. Ask yourself just what are you learning from the 360* stalk of a putt.

At a previous club, I received a complaint about slow play. The following week I put my name down in the group immediately behind the alleged culprit. Between shots, fine. But his PSR averaged 2mins a hole longer than his PP's. That over 30mins longer a round. That's how easy it is to lose two holes on the group in front.

Someone going around in a four ball in less than 4 hours isn't sprinting, he's just doing the right things when he approaches the ball.