(Sorry this has been done to death) The solution to slow play is slow play

[garyinderry]

Not sure I agree with that last paragraph fish.

4.20 to play 16 holes is an age no matter who is playing.

Seems like the fella clocked you guys as being slow and fancied letting you know. Admittedly he could have been a lot more polite.

 

[Alex1975]

what absolute rubbish, have you never heard of allowing faster groups through???

if you are having a match why would you team up!!!! how about you learning some etiquette?

OMG I cant believe its going to happen but it is..... It hurts a little.... Here is comes.... I agree with Patrick. There are 25 of you turned up together and that is your reason for not letting a 2 ball through....HU? You all have to be close to one another why?

"It's called common sense?" Really?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

OMG I cant believe its going to happen but it is..... It hurts a little.... Here is comes.... I agree with Patrick. There are 25 of you turned up together and that is your reason for not letting a 2 ball through....HU? You all have to be close to one another why?

"It's called common sense?" Really?

Agree and welcome back mate

 

[Curls]

Last month I played through a 3 ball on the 3rd (as well as several other groups afterwards) and passed them again as I played the 14th. They were on the 8th. Did letting me through really slow them down?! The pace of play was being dictated by a 4 ball of lads 4 holes ahead. Not me, nor any of the two balls. When I got to the 12th I had the whole course empty ahead of me.

I had to ask that three ball if I could go through and got the customary

"Not letting you through mate, course is busy"

I said if the two ball ahead didn't leave me through I was going to skip ahead anyway, that's the only reason I got through 3 people who decided for me that I would play a 5 hour round at the back of an imagined immovable object. I can categorically state that they did not finish their round one minute slower by letting me through.

As it happens every other group (mostly couples out to enjoy themselves and understandably not wanting to partner-up) were immediate in their waving through, we all exchanged pleasantries and everyone was very nice and had a nice time.

"Not letting you through mate, course is busy"


If I'm out in a 3 or 4 ball and it is slow I think the only way to deal with it is not get worked up and just try to enjoy the game. But faster groups should be allowed through. It won't slow you down as a 4 ball to leave a 2 ball through.

 

[ScienceBoy]

This really backs up my solution.

To cure slow play by behaviour it needs everyone on the course to comply.

If instead we cut the course length and/or the number of holes then round times come down with no reliance on behaviour change.

Also memberships become cheaper as less land is needed.

14 holes seems about right to me with current hole lengths bit 12 could also work well.

 

[woody69]

This really backs up my solution.

To cure slow play by behaviour it needs everyone on the course to comply.

If instead we cut the course length and/or the number of holes then round times come down with no reliance on behaviour change.

Also memberships become cheaper as less land is needed.

14 holes seems about right to me with current hole lengths bit 12 could also work well.

I'd rather take 4-5 hours and play 18 holes than 2.5 hrs to play 12-14.

Why is everyone in such a rush?!

 

[Whereditgo]

This really backs up my solution.

To cure slow play by behaviour it needs everyone on the course to comply.

If instead we cut the course length and/or the number of holes then round times come down with no reliance on behaviour change.

Also memberships become cheaper as less land is needed.

14 holes seems about right to me with current hole lengths bit 12 could also work well.

Or if that's what you want go and play a 9 hole pitch and putt course!

All that would happen after fundamentally changing the sport is that people would be unhappy with a 3 hour round for 12/14 holes, nothing whatsoever achieved to address the issue of slow play, slow players would simply be playing slow for a shorter period of time.

Do away with the antiquated tradition of honour (other than in matchplay), on the tee, on the fairway and 90% of the time on the green, if you're ready first hit the ball!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ready golf is the way to go

We will be sending notices out to the membership that we would like them to play ready golf where ever possible

Some of our older generation aren't happy with it

 

[Capella]

For me the problem with slow play is not that it makes the overall round longer. I love beng on the golf course. I am totally happy to be on the course for 5 hrs if I have the time (which I usually do on a weekend). What makes slow rounds so annoying is that you cannot get into the flow of things, can't find your rythm. And that would be true for 14 holes in four hours just as much as it is for 18 holes in five.

 

[Foxholer]

I'd rather take 4-5 hours and play 18 holes than 2.5 hrs to play 12-14.

Why is everyone in such a rush?!

This is my view too!

I've played in both Scotland and England - and other parts of the world too - and have always found that 'playing to the speed of the course' is the best way to enjoy even slow rounds - and there have been some horrors!

My only gripes have been either not knowing that a round is going to be slow or an actual slow (slower than the rest of 'the field') group in front who won't make way when they have lost a hole - and 'lost a hole' means more than simply 'out of position' (or 'not up the group in front's backsides!')!.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Ready golf is the way to go

We will be sending notices out to the membership that we would like them to play ready golf where ever possible

Some of our older generation aren't happy with it

i wish some of my pp`s would play ready golf ,there always seems to be a discussion as to whos turn it is .does my crust.

 

[PJ87]

Ready golf is the way to go

We will be sending notices out to the membership that we would like them to play ready golf where ever possible

Some of our older generation aren't happy with it

Fully agree. That's what we play in our society we play ready golf. Specially off the tee. If the group ahead is say 270 yards away (approx) the group I was in the big hitters who can hit 300 plus held back and I went with my modest 200 yards and we went from there. Sped it up a bit. Same with putting. Whoever is ready

 

[dufferman]

For me the problem with slow play is not that it makes the overall round longer. I love beng on the golf course. I am totally happy to be on the course for 5 hrs if I have the time (which I usually do on a weekend). What makes slow rounds so annoying is that you cannot get into the flow of things, can't find your rythm. And that would be true for 14 holes in four hours just as much as it is for 18 holes in five.

Again, hit the nail on the head. It's not the passing of time that makes a round slow, it's the constant waiting. I'm happy to play a tough course which is long (like I do on the yearly golf weekend away 8 or so of us do, or when we go off to Spain on holiday to play a few courses) for 5 hours, if we're actually playing for 5 hours! Not standing for 45 minutes waiting for tees / fairways / greens to clear!

 

[pokerjoke]

Ready golf is the way to go

We will be sending notices out to the membership that we would like them to play ready golf where ever possible

Some of our older generation aren't happy with it

This is obviously dependant on what is the situation at the time.
Giving people the option to play ready golf is fine though.
Its no point playing ready golf if the group in front are still within range,ready golf is good when you need to catch up but not to the detriment where you start pushing the people in front as for me that's just as bad as slow play.
Our group played ready golf at Woburn and we played it on Sunday just so we kept the flow going as best we could.

 

[PJ87]

when a mate and I played the brabazon the group in front were constantly complaining the marshall about the group in front of them saying its taken us X amount of time to get to here its going to take 7 hours to get round (which was rubbish) the marshal simply checked his sheets with their name and said nope your due through this section of the course at this time (which was the time he was on the tee. The man complaining then turned to us (we were waiting on the tee at the same time) and said "are you guys happy to take forever playing??" .. I dont think he liked my reply of "to be honest im just glad to be able to play such a fantastic course... enjoying every second" he continued to moan to the marshall who when he left just smiled at us and said "your right their are worst ways to spend a sunday afternoon" to which I replied "yeah you could be getting moaned at by a bunch of fair weather golfers" think he appreciated us not making his day worse

 

[irip]

Is it just me who thought the worst part of this thread was that you was only allowed to play both days of the weekend because your missus was out and about and she let you.oo:

We need a whip cracking smiley.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is obviously dependant on what is the situation at the time.
Giving people the option to play ready golf is fine though.
Its no point playing ready golf if the group in front are still within range,ready golf is good when you need to catch up but not to the detriment where you start pushing the people in front as for me that's just as bad as slow play.
Our group played ready golf at Woburn and we played it on Sunday just so we kept the flow going as best we could.

Defiantly need to judge the situation as you are playing

 

[3565]

5 hrs on a golf course waiting on shots being slow and held up is far more enjoyable then 1 hour at work!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

5 hrs on a golf course waiting on shots being slow and held up is far more enjoyable then 1 hour at work!

But not as enjoyable as 4 hours playing golf being able to walk up to your ball and playing your shot without any waiting around and then walking to your ball and doing the same again. Being held up is not enjoyable in any shape or form

 

[HomerJSimpson]

5 hrs on a golf course waiting on shots being slow and held up is far more enjoyable then 1 hour at work!

I agree. I'm fortunate in that I don't have too many ties and HID is happy for me to spend as much time as I want playing and being at the club. Also we're fortunate that a slow round, even in a medal is usually no more than four hours (four and a half on a rare occurrence). I've no issues with that and normally never feels like you've been out there forever.

We tend to play ready golf in our roll ups and it does keep play moving. However not so keen in a comp. I've had occasions when a player, thinking he's helping, has played (technically out of turn) while I'm over the ball. Very distracting and I prefer to play in order (still no excuse for not being ready to play when it's your turn).