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Ryder Cup 2016 - Official Thread

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Looking at the pairings for today I can't see us getting more than 5 - 5 1/2 points unless we get lucky.
Westy, Kaymer, Willet just not playing well enough.
Sergio's putter is letting him down again but he's playing PhilM so has a chance.
Rose and Stensen have been hot, cold, hot cold all week so their games are a toss up.
Wood/DJ could be good but you have to favour DJ
The way Sneds is putting I don't think Sully has much chance

Rory, Stensen, Pieters, RC-B to win
Garcia, Fitz, Rose for halves
The rest had better start praying....

Roll on France......
 

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Westwood has certainly turned out to be a poor pick, makes me wonder if Clark's previous partnership with him clouded his judgement.

Well said you are spot on about Westwood he is absolute crap & shouldn't have been picked no matter what Pill says to defend him. Big mistake by DC taking his mate, but like I said it will be Westwood's last RC.
 

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Looking at the pairings for today I can't see us getting more than 5 - 5 1/2 points unless we get lucky.
Westy, Kaymer, Willet just not playing well enough.
Sergio's putter is letting him down again but he's playing PhilM so has a chance.
Rose and Stensen have been hot, cold, hot cold all week so their games are a toss up.
Wood/DJ could be good but you have to favour DJ
The way Sneds is putting I don't think Sully has much chance

Rory, Stensen, Pieters, RC-B to win
Garcia, Fitz, Rose for halves
The rest had better start praying....

Roll on France......

Got to agree, we need the top 6 to win at least 5 points (which won't be easy) and then hope for a bit of luck. Frankly, I think this could be over pretty early.
 

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Not looking good for Europe now.. To many players not in good enough form going into this.

TBH they could have had ian poulter in for Westwood and switched there rolls. For I feel poulter would have played just as well as Westwood on the day might even had made a few more putts.

I reckon today in the singles at least half of Europe team will be ripped out by the roots.
 

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Not looking good for Europe now.. To many players not in good enough form going into this.

TBH they could have had ian poulter in for Westwood and switched there rolls. For I feel poulter would have played just as well as Westwood on the day might even had made a few more putts.

I reckon today in the singles at least half of Europe team will be ripped out by the roots.

Poulter has been injured and not played for months
 

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There's no point questioning the picks really.
They were made and that's that.
There's no way of knowing if Knox would have played any better than Westy or Kaymer and plenty of qualifiers haven't played well...
They're all capable of beating anyone on a given day...if things go their way.
Both Sergio and Lee holed some monster putts that they wouldn't have expected to and these balanced out the short ones they missed.

No evidence to back this up but it seems to me that USA have had more luck than Europe.
Reed's eagle, Kooch's putt from a different time zone, a couple of lay ups that missed the water by feet, Mickelson holing a ridiculous footage of putts...
Balance that against Willett's pitch in, a few long putts....
You need luck to win these events and I think more is going towards USA..
 

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After fridays morning session I'm just glad we've at least got a chance.

Kaymer as been most disappointing for me,he's been shocking.
I never thought Westwood should have even been considered so he played pretty much as expected TBH.
But I fancied Kaymer to be pretty steady.
 

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There's no point questioning the picks really.
They were made and that's that.
There's no way of knowing if Knox would have played any better than Westy or Kaymer and plenty of qualifiers haven't played well...
They're all capable of beating anyone on a given day...if things go their way.
Both Sergio and Lee holed some monster putts that they wouldn't have expected to and these balanced out the short ones they missed.

No evidence to back this up but it seems to me that USA have had more luck than Europe.
Reed's eagle, Kooch's putt from a different time zone, a couple of lay ups that missed the water by feet, Mickelson holing a ridiculous footage of putts...
Balance that against Willett's pitch in, a few long putts....
You need luck to win these events and I think more is going towards USA..

They've just been the better team.
 
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Bit down when it finished last night, waking up and seeing the singles draw I'm a bit more optimistic, at can see at least 6-7 points being won so looking for one or two to step up and bring it home, 1 v 1 anything can happen.
 

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The bottle crashing at the end of the Willet/Westwood match was so disappointing. Both bogeying 17 from just off the edge and then Westwood crumbling over the putt on 18. He hit such a great shot in that I thought the cool head of experience had paid off! Nobody in the American team would have missed that but we have a few guys you'd be watching nervously over it.

We've a few players who disappointed but all have a chance to win a point and redeem themselves today. Fingers crossed!
 

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But we had the "momentum".....Jeez I hate that word now...😁
This time, it's all with them, not us.
US don't need to do anything daft. They can play for a half in every game so they don't have to push.
Europe have to do all the pushing and thats where mistakes can creep in.
Sorry to say I think the cup will be lost by 9pm.
 

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Who knows what will happen in the singles today but to this point the Americans deserve their lead. Reed has been as fantastic for America as Mclroy has been for Europe. I love watching them both in this. Pieters and Rafa have become heroes.

Americans are utterly terrified of rough, they've even cut trees down on this course for heaven's sake. Memo for next home Ryder Cup, allow grass to grow off the fairway.

Clarke has had a shocker. Sorry but he has. No hindsight being needed here. Plenty made their views known on here, when the picks were named and then yesterday with the most bizarre afternoon pairings ever made, possible exaggeration but hey why not. If we win today then he owes the players a lifetime of beers for rescuing him.

US supporters. Some have been beer filled Muppets but I have heard all of the Europeans saying how good the US players and vice captains have been in calming them when they have overstepped the mark. No blame on them. Partisanship is part of the Ryder cup and Europe have encouraged it. Abuse is plain wrong, cheering is part of these 3 days.

If we do lose then Davis Love seems a very decent bloke and this American team also have no nuggets in it. I fear a Gleneagles in reverse today.
 

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The bottle crashing at the end of the Willet/Westwood match was so disappointing. Both bogeying 17 from just off the edge and then Westwood crumbling over the putt on 18. He hit such a great shot in that I thought the cool head of experience had paid off! Nobody in the American team would have missed that but we have a few guys you'd be watching nervously over it.

We've a few players who disappointed but all have a chance to win a point and redeem themselves today. Fingers crossed!

As soon as Westwood hit that close on 18 I just knew he'd miss it, the fella can't putt, never has been able to. As a ball striker he is very good but on the greens he just doesn't have it. He isn't the only one who hasn't showed up, but he shouldn't have been anywhere near that team.
 

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The crowd has been disgusting, someone actually shouted "if it wasn't for us you'd all be speaking German " at Kaymer.

It's "banter" apparently. You kind of got the impression yesterday that McIlroy was being diplomatic about the crowd, it will be interesting to see if he and the other players are a little more honest when it's over.
 
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