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Ryder Cup 2016 - Official Thread

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Kaymer got a pick and was just as poor this morning and continuing this afternoon ? Nothing about him

6 other players played to lose their match - nothing

Westwoods career and Ryder Cup history earned the right for the captain to give him a pick just like previous captains have looked to players with previous expirence to help rookies through the Comp - he has done it just like players like Monty and Langer and Faldo and Seve have in the past - not every match goes the right way but what the Europeans did in the past is not all point fingers and start rounding on one player - especially someone who has been right smack bang in the middle of the greatest period of European Ryder Cup history

Clarke picked him for reason and there is still plenty of time left in this comp for Westwood and indeed other players to do their bit to help retain the Ryder Cup

I would hold of on the "I told you so's" just yet

Phil it isn't about I told you so,this isn't all about you.
I didn't think Westwood should have got a pick,but hope to be proven wrong👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
 
Is it wrong to admit I like the design of the American polo shirts? The way USA 16 is written vertically looks very smart, and compared to most US designs very subtle.

I totally agree, I think they look really subtle and really cool.
Unfortunately, the word 'Europe' would be too long for that design.
But yes, it's a really smart shirt.
 
In matchplay obviously either player can go first on the green regardless of which player is closest to the hole. Is it the same on the fairway in that the closer of the pair can hit before their partner? And does the partner then go next as they are still furthest away? This would seem to give an unfair advantage in that one team could have two goes from the fairway to get one close and put the pressure on the other team.

Whichever team is due to go next can decide who plays first. The guy further back may have a difficult shot to get close, so might get the other guy to play first before he decides whether to take the difficult shot on or not.
 
I think the trouble with Westwood is that he's normally a good "steady Eddie" 4somes player rather than a birdie machine for the 4balls but he's not doing the reliable fairways and greens thing at the moment and his putting is never great but he's had a bad day with the putter today.

I'd have (reluctantly) picked him for the team too, I admit, but it'd be a big call to play him again before the singles. Likewise kaymer, I'm afraid.
 
Reed and Spieth using a lot of countryside now.

I do like seeing Snedeker showing a bit of character - I really like his no nonsense style.
 
They should have sniper towers so they can shoot the ignorant, loud mouthed spectators screaming out their typically inane comments!
 
Kaymer got a pick and was just as poor this morning and continuing this afternoon ? Nothing about him

6 other players played to lose their match - nothing

Westwoods career and Ryder Cup history earned the right for the captain to give him a pick just like previous captains have looked to players with previous expirence to help rookies through the Comp - he has done it just like players like Monty and Langer and Faldo and Seve have in the past - not every match goes the right way but what the Europeans did in the past is not all point fingers and start rounding on one player - especially someone who has been right smack bang in the middle of the greatest period of European Ryder Cup history

Clarke picked him for reason and there is still plenty of time left in this comp for Westwood and indeed other players to do their bit to help retain the Ryder Cup

I would hold of on the "I told you so's" just yet

Where have I said "I told you so"?

Would I have picked Westwood? Probably not but I was ambivalent towards the Captain's picks as, in my view, all 12 should earn their place or alternatively the whole team should be picked by the Captain.

One thing has, however, been consistent throughout Lee's career and that is shaky putting; it is the reason why he never quite got to the very peak of the game by winning Majors.

This morning, sadly, it was not just his putting that was shaky but his whole game. Tomorrow may, hopefully, be another day.
 
I think the trouble with Westwood is that he's normally a good "steady Eddie" 4somes player rather than a birdie machine for the 4balls but he's not doing the reliable fairways and greens thing at the moment and his putting is never great but he's had a bad day with the putter today.

I'd have (reluctantly) picked him for the team too, I admit, but it'd be a big call to play him again before the singles. Likewise kaymer, I'm afraid.

I think Westwood could go again in the foursomes tomorrow but with someone like Garcia as opposed to a rookie

Or like what happened with Colsearts and play in the Fourballs with someone like Sullivan or Fitzpatrick

Unless Kaymer rips it up this afternoon then certainly see him having the day off



Also i see the crowd are proving Willetts brother spot on
 
I totally agree, I think they look really subtle and really cool.
Unfortunately, the word 'Europe' would be too long for that design.
But yes, it's a really smart shirt.

It's okay, they could shorten it to EU. Then again maybe that's not such a good idea after all 😁
 
Willet's brother not wide of the mark really.


Whereas the European fans at Gleneagles and Celtic Manor were just perfect.

Let's be honest, America does not have exclusivity when it comes to boorish, drunken supporters at Ryder Cups.
 
some great stuff being played at the min just need Europe to hang on for at least 3 points but boy I wish they'd hurry the fudge up! The first match is like 4 Jason days!
 
This is going very slowly just now.

I followed Spieth and Reed around Gleneagles and I got bored waiting to watch them play their shots and they seem to have gotten worse.
 
I think Kaymer will have tomorrow to work on his game, and maybe Westwood too - I think they were the right picks but haven't played well today.

Much better from Europe this evening, finally holding some putts, Rafa looked confident from the moment he walked the 1st tee, and has played really well, as has Pieters.

The fans are becoming a problem IMO, when the US players & VC's are telling them to shut it, you know it's getting bad.
 
Whereas the European fans at Gleneagles and Celtic Manor were just perfect.

Let's be honest, America does not have exclusivity when it comes to boorish, drunken supporters at Ryder Cups.

Was the behaviour similar at CM & Gleneagles? Genuine question as I've been to the 2002 event at the Belfry, and then 2014 at Medinah, and the crowds were totally different - some of the comments at Medinah weren't great, especially when they started to lose, but there wasn't any of the cheering of bad shots, or constant chirping of players like I've heard today.
 
Was the behaviour similar at CM & Gleneagles? Genuine question as I've been to the 2002 event at the Belfry, and then 2014 at Medinah, and the crowds were totally different - some of the comments at Medinah weren't great, especially when they started to lose, but there wasn't any of the cheering of bad shots, or constant chirping of players like I've heard today.

I was at CM and it was all good natured and very respectful - certainly nothing like what seems to be happening at Hazeltine , certainly never had players and VC telling fans to shut up and can't recall many "baboons" moronic chanting that we can clearly hear after every shot
 
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