Random Irritations

[Deleted member 1740]

i cannot answer properly without lots of research on all other roles mentioned butfrom what i can see, tube drivers do not need degrees and complete a solid training of around 6 months. This is a lower education standard than the other roles mentioned. As you want me to put a figure on it i would say qualified tube drivers 30k, rising to circa 50k after 8-10 years.

No its not. It's the same standard as some of the roles you've mentioned taht should be paid more.

So now you've given a figure of £30k thats £575 per week £350 after deuctions.

You expect anybody to do a job with that much responsibility for public safety to earn that sort of money just because they havent got a degree?

 

[Blue in Munich]

You've benefitted from the job to better yourself, that's great.

And rightly so you shouldnt be paid more for earning&maintaining those quali's.

How much would those qualifications set you back if you were working in a garage for example?

I honestly don’t know what the training for those courses would cost Stu, not a clue.

Not sure why I shouldn’t be paid more for the higher qualifications though? ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I honestly don’t know what the training for those courses would cost Stu, not a clue.

Not sure why I shouldn’t be paid more for the higher qualifications though? ?

Because its part of the job spec, no??

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So claiming to have my garden moat cleaned would be an issue?

You could claim for it but youd be buried alive in it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think the whole teachers holiday one is a bit of a myth. Married to a teacher, and whilst she isn’t in school during the holidays, she spends a good chunk of time lesson planning during them. Add that to the time spent in the evenings planning and marking I would say she definitely works more hours than me.

Lesson planning? Its rinse and repeat every year. They get paid for it aswell?

Thats not hard though is it?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Because its part of the job spec, no??

Not exactly, no. Basic job spec covers walking the beat and general police duties, no obligation to drive or take on specialist functions.

If you do take on the specialist functions and as in my case put your personal driving licence and insurance premium at risk, you’d get paid the same as a foot duty officer with the same level of service.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'd go the opposite route and double their salary but not let them claim the expenses. Build a new parliament building in Birmingham with a connected hotel so none of them need second homes. If you want to become an MP you know that you'll have to travel to Birmingham to carry out your role so it's up to you to get yourself there. While you're there your accommodation is provided for you but you're paying for your own meals as you'd have to pay for them if you were at home.

There'd be no politicians?

Oh and second jobs would be banned.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Not exactly, no. Basic job spec covers walking the beat and general police duties, no obligation to drive or take on specialist functions.

If you do take on the specialist functions and as in my case put your personal driving licence and insurance premium at risk, you’d get paid the same as a foot duty officer with the same level of service.

But you'd get a cushier job?

Goin from a foot bobby to a hobby bobby ?

 

[Blue in Munich]

On a separate irritation, having a splinted finger on my dominant hand.

A relatively piddling injury, the irritation being how many basic, taken for granted things you do that the oversize lolly stick gets in the way of. I shall now see if I can sleep without poking my eye out.

 

[fundy]

I think the question we all want to know is should a tube driver earn more less or the same as a plumber

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think the question we all want to know is should a tube driver earn more less or the same as a plumber

It already is!!

An advanced JIB plumbers rate is around £16ph....

 

[fundy]

It already is!!

An advanced JIB plumbers rate is around £16ph....

Lol, my plumbers seen me coming!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Lol, my plumbers seen me coming!!!!!

We always do ???

That rate is for an employed plumber, then theres the London weighting rate.

 

[Foxholer]

We always do ???

That rate is for an employed plumber, then theres the London weighting rate.

Fortunate there are no toilets to fix on underground train carriages then!

 

[PJ87]

No its not. It's the same standard as some of the roles you've mentioned taht should be paid more.

So now you've given a figure of £30k thats £575 per week £350 after deuctions.

You expect anybody to do a job with that much responsibility for public safety to earn that sort of money just because they havent got a degree?

One of the stupidest arguments I've ever heard .. they should earn less because they don't have a degree?

How many people go to uni and waste their degree, just going because it's what they think they should do.

More apprenticeships should be out there to get people working quicker with real useful qualifications.

My control room is a real mixture. 39 positions but only 33 of us atm. Over 1/2 of us are ex apprentices. Me and my mate stated the same day. Apprentices have the lowest failure rate for the role as we spent our entire apprenticeship in signal cabins / control rooms learning. The other half is made up of direct recruit ex forces when tfl did a few forces recruitment campaign (all without degrees, poor guys should earn less) we have a few ex train drivers in there who have been promoted and then you have about 3 graduates who came onto the company via the graduate scheme and eventually decided they wanted to work with us. Two of them have masters .. maybe they should have a degree allowance ..

Next people will want plumbers to have degrees or work for minimum wage

 

[Bunkermagnet]

My job is more important than yours arguements.
Best way, don’t bring employment complaints/irritations onto a forum.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

This be taking over the thread, if we want a job/wages comparison thread, feel free to start one ?

 

[Billysboots]

You’d know, you spent your working life in as a Bobby didn’t you?

But I want to know what you think. You’ve suggested the police are protected. I’d like to know what you think they’re protected from, how, by whom and why? It was you who made the suggestion, not me.

 

[bobmac]

Qualifications to be a PGA Pro...... (In 2004)
O Level Maths and English
4 handicap or less
An FdSc from Birmingham University

Qualifications to be an MP.....0

 

[chellie]

Toothache Waiting for the dentist to call me back sometime today.