Random Irritations

[Dando]

Maybe. Wouldn't be surprised if Greenwood idolised Ryan Giggs as a kid...

Or maybe she wanted to release attention grabbing images on instagram to increase her brand value as a social media influencer.

We just don't know. I'm sure a lot more stuff will come out in due course.

are you for real?

 

[bobmac]

Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty but has he issued a statement denying these accusations ? I haven't seen any.
I know if I was wrongfully accused of doing something like this I'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

 

[AmandaJR]

Not so much an irritation, just very sad.

Our oldest member, a few weeks shy of 94, had a fall yesterday morning as he was leaving the club. The poor guy is about 8 stone dripping wet, and rather frail. Add in dementia too. A broken shoulder, broken hip and broken ankle. The doc’s were operating yesterday evening.

Waiting to hear…

Oh that is sad and hope he manages to pull through.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

96% of rape allegations are never prosecuted. Conviction rate for the other 4% pretty low.

Don’t worry football fans, he’ll be back banging in the goals in no time.

Meanwhile keep ignoring all the “low level” misogyny and abuse that leads to attacks like this.

According to the latest CPS figures 44.7% of cases are prosecuted.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

According to the latest CPS figures 44.7% of cases are prosecuted.

CPS Annual figures for last year:
“Rape prosecutions fell by 26% to a record low of 1,557 in 2020-21 from over 50,000 cases reported to the Police”

So not sure what the figure of 44.7% relates to.

 

[GB72]

A bit trite compared to some of the points currently mentioned, but the Thortful adverts on Talksport, especially the one who sounds a bit like Jane Horrocks.

 

[Blue in Munich]

CPS Annual figures for last year:
“Rape prosecutions fell by 26% to a record low of 1,557 in 2020-21 from over 50,000 cases reported to the Police”

So not sure what the figure of 44.7% relates to.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/key-facts-about-how-CPS-prosecutes-allegations-rape

The CPS does not charge people with rape simply to increase prosecution numbers
As with any other offence, a decision to charge a suspect is made in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors. This means we will only charge where there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction and a prosecution is in the public interest.

Evidence shows that the prevalence of these crimes is not decreasing. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that recorded rapes doubled between financial year 2014-15 and 2018-19 to 58,614.

In the year ending 2019-20 the CPS completed charging decisions in relation to 4,184 suspects and 1,867 (44.7%) of those suspects were charged.

This was the one that came up when I googled it Paul, so I can see where DaveR got it from to be fair.

Given the issues that the pandemic has caused, could this have a bearing on what appears to be a substantial change in numbers, or are we somehow comparing apples & oranges?

 

[Whereditgo]

A bit trite compared to some of the points currently mentioned, but the Thortful adverts on Talksport, especially the one who sounds a bit like Jane Horrocks.

Is that the really.....really.....really....really one? I have to turn the volume to zero

They have failed with me because I had no idea what was being advertised.

 

[GB72]

Is that the really.....really.....really....really one? I have to turn the volume to zero

They have failed with me because I had no idea what was being advertised.

That is the one and I turn them off as well now.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/key-facts-about-how-CPS-prosecutes-allegations-rape

The CPS does not charge people with rape simply to increase prosecution numbers
As with any other offence, a decision to charge a suspect is made in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors. This means we will only charge where there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction and a prosecution is in the public interest.

Evidence shows that the prevalence of these crimes is not decreasing. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that recorded rapes doubled between financial year 2014-15 and 2018-19 to 58,614.

In the year ending 2019-20 the CPS completed charging decisions in relation to 4,184 suspects and 1,867 (44.7%) of those suspects were charged.

This was the one that came up when I googled it Paul, so I can see where DaveR got it from to be fair.

Given the issues that the pandemic has caused, could this have a bearing on what appears to be a substantial change in numbers, or are we somehow comparing apples & oranges?

I think the confusion comes from his answer to Kaz, she said allegations, Dave showed cases. The 20/21 report is out and that is the report I used for the figures I gave.

You know far better than me the evidence and procedures needed to charge someone, and accept there maybe some misunderstanding in terminology.

 

[Imurg]

One of my pupils has just booked her test...
Earliest she could get..?

15th July.......

 

[Deleted member 15344]

96% of rape allegations are never prosecuted. Conviction rate for the other 4% pretty low.

Don’t worry football fans, he’ll be back banging in the goals in no time.

Meanwhile keep ignoring all the “low level” misogyny and abuse that leads to attacks like this.

I’m pretty sure plenty “football fans” have been disgusted with it and condemned it

I would have thought throwing out generic statements and lumping everyone together would be something that wouldn’t sit well with you.

I’m a football fan and I’m horrified by what’s happened

And certainly wouldn’t ignore any level of abuse

 

[SaintHacker]

96% of rape allegations are never prosecuted. Conviction rate for the other 4% pretty low.

Don’t worry football fans, he’ll be back banging in the goals in no time.

Meanwhile keep ignoring all the “low level” misogyny and abuse that leads to attacks like this.

I've read some hypocrisy on these forums but thats up there with the best

 

[Foxholer]

CPS Annual figures for last year:
“Rape prosecutions fell by 26% to a record low of 1,557 in 2020-21 from over 50,000 cases reported to the Police”

So not sure what the figure of 44.7% relates to.

Here's a link to another bad looking stat - many more referrals; slightly few prosecutions https://victimscommissioner.org.uk/...-charges-despite-police-referring-more-cases/

 

[drdel]

One of my pupils has just booked her test...
Earliest she could get..?

15th July.......

I hope (based on recent news reports) that your car will be scrupulously !!

 

[Foxholer]

I've read some hypocrisy on these forums but thats up there with the best

https://www.theguardian.com/society...-60-cases-lead-to-charge-in-england-and-wales

 

[fundy]

The Sue Grey report

 

[Deleted member 23270]

CPS Annual figures for last year:
“Rape prosecutions fell by 26% to a record low of 1,557 in 2020-21 from over 50,000 cases reported to the Police”

So not sure what the figure of 44.7% relates to.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/key-facts-about-how-CPS-prosecutes-allegations-rape

 

[Deleted member 16999]

https://www.cps.gov.uk/publication/key-facts-about-how-CPS-prosecutes-allegations-rape

BiM had already quoted that, and, that doesn’t change what Kaz posted, simply deflects.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

BiM had already quoted that, and, that doesn’t change what Kaz posted, simply deflects.

Someone is telling porkies. Is it the CPS or the press? Who knows......