Rake Placement in Bunker - Reader - I pulled up a FC

[Jacko_G]

Honest to goodness. I can't believe how precious and anal this topic is. Basically someone doesn't replace a rake the way the OP wants/believes it should be done and we're into 5 pages!!! Who says that one way is more correct than another? You can hit off the rake in the centre of a bunker and ricochet off it up under a lip or into the side of the bunker just as much as you can with a rake left at the edge/half in/half out.

Good luck on your rake crusade.

 

[Marshy77]

Good luck on your rake crusade.

All I imagine now is someone hiding in bushes around bunkers dressed in a Batman style outfit waiting for someone to misplace a rake - The Rake Crusader.

 

[garyinderry]

If you have such small steep bunkers then ask your committee to implement an outside if bunker policy.


We have big bunkers and it's a rarity to land under the rake. It usually requires a small hike to find it.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

If a player does something deliberately that you and he know could have a significant negative impact on the score of a player following you - and on having that pointed out to him he refuses to then correct what he has done - then that's OK?

This entire thread is a waste of time purely because there is no right or wrong place to leave a rake. Some clubs specify in the bunker, some specify outside the bunker and some provide poles that allow you to stand them vertically.

 

[Wolf]

Why does it matter if its the most prestigious event or just a round with the guys. Its a bloody rake there is no rule governing its placement.

If bunkers are that steep then leave it outside. Or just accept its only a bloody rake and isn't the end of the world.

Seems to be an overly precious debate, especially considering if you hit it in the hazard its your own fault so if you end up punished tough luck play a better shot next time.

 

[Orikoru]

Not taking his side but he did say there is a rule at his club telling people where to put the rakes. But regardless of that, if you put it in slightly the wrong place, the chances of that having a 'significant negative impact' as he put it, on another player are pretty remote I would say. If I hit a rake on a round I would say "oh well that was bad/good luck", shift the rake out of the way if needed and crack on. I probably wouldn't report to the committee that someone left it in the wrong place.

 

[TheJezster]

I think the committee needs a letter, yes that should do it. A separate letter for each instance of rake misplacement. I'm sure they'll appreciate the time taken to write such letters too.

Who knows, perhaps one day you could be in charge of the rake sub committee, with monthly reports to the management team! You could have flip charts with diagrams and everything!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I think the committee needs a letter, yes that should do it. A separate letter for each instance of rake misplacement. I'm sure they'll appreciate the time taken to write such letters too.

Who knows, perhaps one day you could be in charge of the rake sub committee, with monthly reports to the management team! You could have flip charts with diagrams and everything!

The club might even supply a parking space for services to the members

 

[Marshy77]

The club might even supply a parking space for services to the members

You'd have to make sure you were parked corrected, well within the parking space and not outside the lines!!

 

[Imurg]

You'd have to make sure you were parked corrected, well within the parking space and not outside the lines!!

I know someone who can help with that...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If you have such small steep bunkers then ask your committee to implement an outside if bunker policy.


We have big bunkers and it's a rarity to land under the rake. It usually requires a small hike to find it.

I have been thinking I might well discuss this with some fellow members and if there is a consensus we can raise a suggestion (I cannot raise a suggestion on my own - we must submit suggestions signed by 6 members). In the past 'incorrectly' placed rakes were really just an irritation in respect of inconsistency across the course - but with our new bunkers the situation has - I feel - changed.

For reasons I can understand, I have been on receipt of a fair amount of disbelief and slagging off over this - however here's a pic of the scenario so you can see what I mean and why I said what I said to my FC. Note the other rake in the 'correct location.

I only do this out of a duty of care to other golfers playing behind me. I am not too sure why that is such a nonsense thing to do. Also pic of one of the bunkers rebuilt this spring. This used to be a simple greenside parkland style bunker that had a slightly raised face to the green - but pretty much no drop in around the rest of it's perimeter.

 

[Orikoru]

I have been thinking I might well discuss this with some fellow members and if there is a consensus we can raise a suggestion (I cannot raise a suggestion on my own - we must submit suggestions signed by 6 members). In the past 'incorrectly' placed rakes were really just an irritation in respect of inconsistency across the course - but with our new bunkers the situation has - I feel - changed.

For reasons I can understand, I have been on receipt of a fair amount of disbelief and slagging off over this - however here's a pic of the scenario so you can see what I mean and why I said what I said to my FC. Note the other rake in the 'correct location.

I only do this out of a duty of care to other golfers playing behind me. I am not too sure why that is such a nonsense thing to do.

So you move the rake and the ball rolls where it would have rolled anyway, what's the problem?

That must happen once in a blue moon if you're very unlucky.

 

[robinthehood]

So you move the rake and the ball rolls where it would have rolled anyway, what's the problem?

That must happen once in a blue moon if you're very unlucky.

You have to put the ball back 😉

 

[bobmac]

I have been thinking I might well discuss this with some fellow members and if there is a consensus we can raise a suggestion (I cannot raise a suggestion on my own - we must submit suggestions signed by 6 members). In the past 'incorrectly' placed rakes were really just an irritation in respect of inconsistency across the course - but with our new bunkers the situation has - I feel - changed.

For reasons I can understand, I have been on receipt of a fair amount of disbelief and slagging off over this - however here's a pic of the scenario so you can see what I mean and why I said what I said to my FC. Note the other rake in the 'correct location.

I only do this out of a duty of care to other golfers playing behind me. I am not too sure why that is such a nonsense thing to do.

I take it that ball on the rake in the photo was placed there to show what could happen and didn't just happen to roll through the thick rough and drop in the front?

 

[Marshy77]

I have been thinking I might well discuss this with some fellow members and if there is a consensus we can raise a suggestion (I cannot raise a suggestion on my own - we must submit suggestions signed by 6 members). In the past 'incorrectly' placed rakes were really just an irritation in respect of inconsistency across the course - but with our new bunkers the situation has - I feel - changed.

For reasons I can understand, I have been on receipt of a fair amount of disbelief and slagging off over this - however here's a pic of the scenario so you can see what I mean and why I said what I said to my FC. Note the other rake in the 'correct location.

I only do this out of a duty of care to other golfers playing behind me. I am not too sure why that is such a nonsense thing to do. Also pic of one of the bunkers rebuilt this spring. This used to be a simple greenside parkland style bunker that had a slightly raised face to the green - but pretty much no drop in around the rest of it's perimeter.

Sorry but that bunker is HUGE. If a ball happens to end up like in the picture, for me, it's just unfortunate. The ball could as easily run into the bunker and end up under the rake in the middle.

 

[robinthehood]

Sorry but that bunker is HUGE. If a ball happens to end up like in the picture, for me, it's just unfortunate. The ball could as easily run into the bunker and end up under the rake in the middle.

Which is his point...no issue with the rake in the middle

 

[Orikoru]

You have to put the ball back 😉

Well you can't put it back there can you, it'll just roll down anyway. It's on a slope.

 

[Jacko_G]

Well you can't put it back there can you, it'll just roll down anyway. It's on a slope.

Read the rules.

 

[robinthehood]

Well you can't put it back there can you, it'll just roll down anyway. It's on a slope.

So what do you do, bearing in mind you can't be any nearer the hole

 

[Orikoru]

Read the rules.

The rules of physics??