Rake Placement in Bunker - Reader - I pulled up a FC

[Wolf]

I think you are being way too polite. I'd be causing merry hell. It's not the end of the world and lets be honest, irrespective of the OP saying it was their big event of the year, how many times a season do we actually hit a rake or find the rake impeding the ball in a bunker? I'd rather worry about repairing pitch marks, actually raking bunkers and pace of play

Oh I'd be telling them to their face I think they're a knob for being so petty.

Plus the fact the player has hit the ball in the bunker so rather than them being annoyed at placement of the rwke seeking excuses they should be accepting they put the ball in the crap in the first place.

Can count on 1 hand how many times a ball has rest against a rake and even then probably less than 3 fingers needed..

 

[Marshy77]

I think you are being way too polite. I'd be causing merry hell. It's not the end of the world and lets be honest, irrespective of the OP saying it was their big event of the year, how many times a season do we actually hit a rake or find the rake impeding the ball in a bunker? I'd rather worry about repairing pitch marks, actually raking bunkers and pace of play

It happens that often that there isn't a rule about it.

It's an extremely rare occurance. It's bonkers.

 

[TheJezster]

I would have said something like 'not funny' and would have gone and moved it myself. Depending upon what you might have said to me and how you said it, I just might even have reported the incident. Where the rake had been placed could have cost a following player 2 shots (if he had chosen the new bunker drop option). We were playing in the club's most prestigious open competition and if that player had been a visitor (or indeed a member) up there with a chance of coming in the frame he could very rightly have been very miffed.

I think that says more about you than me...

In my own reply I said I was laughing, ergo, friendly!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think that says more about you than me...

In my own reply I said I was laughing, ergo, friendly!

Hold on Jezster, you can't comment as WCGC doesn't have bunkers. You're not qualified lol

 

[Jacko_G]

...and we are rebuilding every bunker on the course with revetted faces. Previously our bunkers were parkland-style bunkers and as you say rake placement was not quite so critical - but when your ball can roll into a bunker and drop almost straight down at least 12" then now it really does matter.

Pretty straight forward to come out sideways, take your medicine and move on.

 

[Wolf]

Pretty straight forward to come out sideways, take your medicine and move on.

My point exactly, instead of being irked by someone's positioning of a rake, be more wound up at yourself for hitting in the crap in the first place, take your medicine and move on

 

[sunshine]

Oh I'd be telling them to their face I think they're a knob for being so petty.

Plus the fact the player has hit the ball in the bunker so rather than them being annoyed at placement of the rwke seeking excuses they should be accepting they put the ball in the crap in the first place.

Can count on 1 hand how many times a ball has rest against a rake and even then probably less than 3 fingers needed..

You have 3 fingers on your hand? Is this a Lincolnshire thing? I've heard stories about the rural farming community....

 

[Wolf]

You have 3 fingers on your hand? Is this a Lincolnshire thing? I've heard stories about the rural farming community....

No got 4 and an opposable thumb on each hand just wouldn't need them all to count how many times it's happened. 😂

 

[sunshine]

Say 50-60 bunkers on a course and 2 minutes getting off the mower moving the rake and getting back on the mower. That's nearly two hours of a green keepers time spent just picking up and moving rakes several days a week.

2 minutes to move a rake? Does your course have giant rakes made of solid lead? I would expect this to take no more than 5 seconds per rake... so more like 4-5 minutes per day.

RAKE DEBATE!!!

 

[Imurg]

Of course you could just do away with rakes altogether. They are meant to be hazards after all...

 

[Marshy77]

#RakeGate

 

[jim8flog]

2 minutes to move a rake? Does your course have giant rakes made of solid lead? I would expect this to take no more than 5 seconds per rake... so more like 4-5 minutes per day.

RAKE DEBATE!!!

5 seconds!! Makes me wonder what type of mowers your greenkeepers use.

 

[jim8flog]

Te reason for having rakes in the bunker pointing in a specific direction is 100% cosmetic. No other reason

I was referring to comments about rakes left outside of the bunkers.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Now I did not say I would ever report anyone for putting the rake in what the club considers the wrong place - I said - and I quote - 'Depending upon what you might have said to me and how you said it'.

If a player knows he has put a rake into a place in a bunker that could cause a FC a serious issue, and has it pointed out - but refuses to do anything about it and makes a comment such as was suggested - then are we not slipping into areas of breach of etiquette - lack of consideration for other players and fellow competitors; not leaving a bunker/course as you found it etc? Further - and I was specific - this was in the club's most prestigious open competition. I would certainly not do same in a normal friendly or social round - or indeed internal club competition.

 

[Marshy77]

5 seconds!! Makes me wonder what type of mowers your greenkeepers use.

Greenkeeper gets to rake, jumps out of mower, moves rake, cuts grass, re-positions the rake in the exact spot that he found the rake to not upset anyone and drives to next bunker. Repeat.

 

[Jacko_G]

Now I did not say I would ever report anyone for putting the rake in what the club considers the wrong place - I said - and I quote - 'Depending upon what you might have said to me and how you said it'.

If a player knows he has put a rake into a place in a bunker that could cause a FC a serious issue, and has it pointed out - but refuses to do anything about it and makes a comment such as was suggested - then are we not slipping into areas of breach of etiquette - lack of consideration for other players and fellow competitors; not leaving a bunker/course as you found it etc? Further - and I was specific - this was in the club's most prestigious open competition. I would certainly not do same in a normal friendly or social round - or indeed internal club competition.

I can't work out if you are serious or not???

"Breach of etiquette" seriously?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

2 minutes to move a rake? Does your course have giant rakes made of solid lead? I would expect this to take no more than 5 seconds per rake... so more like 4-5 minutes per day.

RAKE DEBATE!!!

I'm calling BS on this! It's got to be 6-7 seconds at least by the time the guy puts the mower in neutral, gets off, moves the rake, gets back on then starts the mower again. Plus of course he has to do the same in reverse after he has cut around the bunker.

This deffo needs a debate!

#rakegate

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I can't work out if you are serious or not???

"Breach of etiquette" seriously?

If a player does something deliberately that you and he know could have a significant negative impact on the score of a player following you - and on having that pointed out to him he refuses to then correct what he has done - then that's OK?

 

[Jacko_G]

If a player does something deliberately that you and he know could have a significant negative impact on the score of a player following you - and on having that pointed out to him he refuses to then correct what he has done - then that's OK?

Do you struggle for playing partners?

 

[Marshy77]

If a player does something deliberately that you and he know could have a significant negative impact on the score of a player following you - and on having that pointed out to him he refuses to then correct what he has done - then that's OK?