SteveW86
Head Pro
That’s a big drop!
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That’s a big drop!
wjemather
Well-known member
No.
While the individual bonus pool has reduced, team prize money has been increased by $7.3m per event ($5m extra for the team pot so all teams get prize money; and $2.3m for the individual players in the top 3 teams). That's almost $95m in total for the 13 individual events.
So overall, prize money has increased significantly.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
So, more emphasis on the team aspect of the competition, but they want more individual ranking points? Strange way of showing they aren't all about the team which was one of the major stumbling blocks for ranking points.
WorldHandicapSystem
Well-known member
Maybe before then you will give us an explanation as to how your regulator will work?I'll be the one to make the 200,000th as well Steve.
simsini
Well-known member
World ranking points should simply be 1 point per $1 (USD) earned on a rolling 2 year basis. This shouldn't include money paid to players to be contracted or the bonus at the PGA Tour Championship, just money earned in the individual format in each tournament.
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wjemather
Well-known member
It probably helps with team financing and potential sale of equity.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Okay. Below is from OWGR-
No Cut Tournaments
If a Tournament does not operate any cut then unless the No Cut Tournament Exception below applies, the value of Ranking Points awarded to the bottom 15% of players who complete all scheduled rounds shall be zero.
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So they operate at 85%.
You easily see this in action by reviewing completed tournaments on their site. I mentioned the Dubai Invitational previously.
Personally I felt 85% was too high. I'd have preferred they make a generic change that applies to all. Rather than go 85% for 26 organisations and 18% for one.
If singling one out I thought something representing a cut might be more dependable.
Hope that explains.
As others have already mentioned, I can't follow the 17% you mentioned.
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BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
It's an opinion for sure.
Not sure Clutch Pro would agree with you though
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cleveland52
Active member
When discussing the Hero World Challenge and OWGR points, what is often overlooked is the fact that it took nine years for that tournament to get points, and they were minimal. So, if people want to compare, they need to start there.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Yeah it is fair to remind on that. Do you recall if they actually changed anything that year or was it just a case of grinding them down? I hadn't been able to find a reason.
Minimal points may be subjective. The winner a few months ago received 30 points, which might be low compared to a full field pgat event, but it was the highest that week & the next highest was only 21.
I think the length of time was more pertinent when the upstarts were after points a couple of years ago. Obviously past that now.
The relevance today was more that as a small field, no cut event, that points were allocated down to 17th place (85%).
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Watched on TNT today. Thought the coverage was decent - it's a much better platform than ITV was to be fair.
Quite a spectacle under the lights and lasers - I'm not sure whether 72 holes will be better than 54, we'll wait and see...
Quite a spectacle under the lights and lasers - I'm not sure whether 72 holes will be better than 54, we'll wait and see...
SteveW86
Head Pro
Are they running Wednesday to Saturday then?
Mel Smooth
Hacker
They traditionally finish on Saturday in Riyadh, where the weekend is Friday and Saturday.
C7usk
Well-known member
Actually watched half hour of it on TNT.. Was quite cool under the lights.. Wouldn't mind a shot of floodlit golf. Watched the interview with young Ben Schmidt, who's replacing Westwood for a couple of matches. Seemed like a good guy. Quite down to earth. Was interesting to hear how the players were managing playing under the lights and gauging distances with shadows etc.
Fore Right
Well-known member
Bit late to this as ive been away for a few days
People said Liv will never get points as they will never fulfill the criteria - and they did and in reality they always were going to due to the players they have on their tour.
Now people say points for top 10 is about right - reality is this is just a 1st foot in the door and it will eventually widen out to more places down a Liv leaderboard.
Remember Trevor Immelman is walking the tight rope of bringing Liv into the fold to keep the rankings relevant (You cant have the Rahms and Dechambeaus way down the rankings and expect to be taken seriously) while also not upsetting the OWGR board which is full of rival parties.
Although Liv are not 100% happy its a massive stamp of further legitimacy for Liv and it will for sure widen out past the top 10 in the future.
One thing that has gone widely un noticed is that the OWGR in their statement acknowledged Liv have proposed changes for 2027 to further comply to OWGR eligibility.
You have to think this will be more pathways onto and off the tour, if this indeed happens I would expect Liv Golf to have a far better standing on OWGR points in 2027.
People said Liv will never get points as they will never fulfill the criteria - and they did and in reality they always were going to due to the players they have on their tour.
Now people say points for top 10 is about right - reality is this is just a 1st foot in the door and it will eventually widen out to more places down a Liv leaderboard.
Remember Trevor Immelman is walking the tight rope of bringing Liv into the fold to keep the rankings relevant (You cant have the Rahms and Dechambeaus way down the rankings and expect to be taken seriously) while also not upsetting the OWGR board which is full of rival parties.
Although Liv are not 100% happy its a massive stamp of further legitimacy for Liv and it will for sure widen out past the top 10 in the future.
One thing that has gone widely un noticed is that the OWGR in their statement acknowledged Liv have proposed changes for 2027 to further comply to OWGR eligibility.
You have to think this will be more pathways onto and off the tour, if this indeed happens I would expect Liv Golf to have a far better standing on OWGR points in 2027.
Fore Right
Well-known member
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Anyone know the difference between a Grounds pass and a Grounds pass plus at JCB?
When I went in the first year at Centurion I'm not sure it existed and the description is a bit vague?
Is it simply access to a tent and a free drink for £50 more?
When I went in the first year at Centurion I'm not sure it existed and the description is a bit vague?
Is it simply access to a tent and a free drink for £50 more?
Fore Right
Well-known member
"A LIV Golf Grounds Plus pass at the JCB Golf & Country Club (scheduled for 2026) elevates the standard Grounds Pass by adding exclusive, elevated viewing platforms at key holes (like the 1st/18th), a dedicated shaded "chill-out" zone, and a private bar to skip concession lines, offering a more comfortable, premium experience for a slightly higher price"
Fore Right
Well-known member
1st time I've watched TNT coverage from the start.
Doing a decent job.
Craig Doyle is an experienced presenter.
Oliver Wilson knows his onions and will feel more comfortable in front of camera the more he does it.
Far better effort than ITV which wasn't hard to be fair.
All in all it's good to see some commitment from TNT as they could have just taken the official Liv Pre and Post game.
Doing a decent job.
Craig Doyle is an experienced presenter.
Oliver Wilson knows his onions and will feel more comfortable in front of camera the more he does it.
Far better effort than ITV which wasn't hard to be fair.
All in all it's good to see some commitment from TNT as they could have just taken the official Liv Pre and Post game.
Depreston
Club Champion
Having watched TNT coverage for the ashes I can’t imagine their golf coverage being much better tbh
