LIV Golf

[SteveW86]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018984756239863847

LIV cutting back the bonus to the winner from 18 mil to 6mil

Overall bonus put cut by 20mil

Are they looking to reduce outgoings ?

That’s a big drop!

 

[wjemather]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018984756239863847

LIV cutting back the bonus to the winner from 18 mil to 6mil

Overall bonus put cut by 20mil

Are they looking to reduce outgoings ?

No.

While the individual bonus pool has reduced, team prize money has been increased by $7.3m per event ($5m extra for the team pot so all teams get prize money; and $2.3m for the individual players in the top 3 teams). That's almost $95m in total for the 13 individual events.

So overall, prize money has increased significantly.

 

[Neilds]

No.

While the individual bonus pool has reduced, team prize money has been increased by $7.3m per event ($5m extra for the team pot so all teams get prize money; and $2.3m for the individual players in the top 3 teams). That's almost $95m in total for the 13 individual events.

So overall, prize money has increased significantly.

So, more emphasis on the team aspect of the competition, but they want more individual ranking points? Strange way of showing they aren't all about the team which was one of the major stumbling blocks for ranking points.

 

[WorldHandicapSystem]

I'll be the one to make the 200,000th as well Steve.

Maybe before then you will give us an explanation as to how your regulator will work?

 

[simsini]

World ranking points should simply be 1 point per $1 (USD) earned on a rolling 2 year basis. This shouldn't include money paid to players to be contracted or the bonus at the PGA Tour Championship, just money earned in the individual format in each tournament.

 

[wjemather]

So, more emphasis on the team aspect of the competition, but they want more individual ranking points? Strange way of showing they aren't all about the team which was one of the major stumbling blocks for ranking points.

It probably helps with team financing and potential sale of equity.

 

[BubbaP]

I curious how you come to the view that awarding 44% of the field in a LIV even is "appropriate and defendable"?

Maybe for your reference in a PGA event I believe they award points to 17% of the field. Also some more info for you 17% of 57 = 9.69

Okay. Below is from OWGR-

No Cut Tournaments

If a Tournament does not operate any cut then unless the No Cut Tournament Exception below applies, the value of Ranking Points awarded to the bottom 15% of players who complete all scheduled rounds shall be zero.
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So they operate at 85%.
You easily see this in action by reviewing completed tournaments on their site. I mentioned the Dubai Invitational previously.

Personally I felt 85% was too high. I'd have preferred they make a generic change that applies to all. Rather than go 85% for 26 organisations and 18% for one.
If singling one out I thought something representing a cut might be more dependable.
Hope that explains.
As others have already mentioned, I can't follow the 17% you mentioned.

 

[BubbaP]

Top ten getting ranking points sounds fair to me. If you finish outside the top ten on a tour with only 4 good players left then you don't deserve any points.

It's an opinion for sure.

Not sure Clutch Pro would agree with you though

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[cleveland52]

Don’t think many haven’t been critical of the Hero Challenge over the years , was a pure invitational but when they got ranking points it was poor, even when they put some qualification for the event ( ironically world ranking)

It shouldn’t get the points it does and think the Nedbank shouldn’t as well

But I think qualifying for the event is what helps

It was a good move forward for LIV to get some level of points but because of the stuff they highlighted they weren’t going to get the same as other because still not fulfilling criteria , think more players can get relegated this season , if those relegated are replaced by players on merit they could see the level of points changing


Ranking points will always be contentious-too long been weighted in favour of US events and it helped reduce the ET to what it is now

When discussing the Hero World Challenge and OWGR points, what is often overlooked is the fact that it took nine years for that tournament to get points, and they were minimal. So, if people want to compare, they need to start there.