Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
They have added some rational to the decision
And looks like LIV aren’t happy
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They have added some rational to the decision
And looks like LIV aren’t happy
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Laughable.
Like I said, golf needs a regulatory body.
The people running the game are working to agendas to please their mates, and quite clearly making up rules as they go aling.
Like I said, golf needs a regulatory body.
The people running the game are working to agendas to please their mates, and quite clearly making up rules as they go aling.
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
To be fair owgr have moved despite saying they never would.
Give and inch and they’ll take a mile springs to mind
irip
Head Pro
I haven’t read it all but my take on it based on reactions of Phil & Mel is LIV got some points but not as many as they wanted.
If I’m wrong can someone steer me in the right direction please
If I’m wrong can someone steer me in the right direction please
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
That’s about the crux of it
They have got points equivalent of a DP event but only the top 10 get points so the winner will get more points on the Liv event compared to the DP event
They posted some rational about in regards still some areas where the tour still doesn’t fulfill eligibility criteria
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Who would be responsible for appointing such a body??
wjemather
Well-known member
To an extent, The R&A and USGA should already be doing that job. Unfortunately, both have shown a tendancy to be heavily influenced by lobbying from certain self-interested parties.
AussieKB
Well-known member
Is anyone really surprised ???
OWGR is designed to help the PGA tour at the expense of ALL other tours.
OWGR is designed to help the PGA tour at the expense of ALL other tours.
WorldHandicapSystem
Well-known member
You’ll not get a sensible answer, or one that isn’t from AI.
It’s good to see liv have finally been given world ranking points. They will have to find something else to cry about now……
WorldHandicapSystem
Well-known member
I’m surprised they got any at all.
evemccc
Well-known member
Isn't it about time Phil and Mel did a podcast on LIV/PGA Tour golf??
It’s the sort of thing Sky Sports would promote, Neville and Carragher-esque..
SteveW86
Head Pro
Isn't it about time Phil and Mel did a podcast on LIV/PGA Tour golf??
It’s the sort of thing Sky Sports would promote, Neville and Carragher-esque..
It would be like when sky had a commentary option for a fan of each team
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
To be fair, IMO Phil has been pretty neutral in last few pages - so maybe Mr WHS & Mel
Fore Right
Well-known member
For me it's step one in the right direction for Liv and OWGR points
irip
Head Pro
I’m thinking about putting them forward to host loose womenIsn't it about time Phil and Mel did a podcast on LIV/PGA Tour golf??
It’s the sort of thing Sky Sports would promote, Neville and Carragher-esque..
AussieKB
Well-known member
I take that you agree that OWGR is pro PGA
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Being generous maybe OWGR were aiming to keep some leverage for encouraging future changes.
Hard not to seem like certain parties were keen to avoid it looking like a 'success' though.
I think points down to say 25 (44% of field) may have felt more appropriate and defendable.
As AW mentioned, feels a bit of a fudge as is.
Be interesting to see how the media sites view it over next few days.
Hard not to seem like certain parties were keen to avoid it looking like a 'success' though.
I think points down to say 25 (44% of field) may have felt more appropriate and defendable.
As AW mentioned, feels a bit of a fudge as is.
Be interesting to see how the media sites view it over next few days.
stymied
Member
OWGR only really matters because it’s one of the primary pathways into tournaments. I don’t really care about the DP World Tour, PGA Tour, LIV, or any other tour. What moves the needle are the majors. OWGR is run by the majors (Augusta National, PGA of America, USGA, R&A) the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour.
If I’m representing the majors, my priority is simple. Have the best players in the world play in my event. In my view, the OWGR fails at that goal because the PGA Tour has been able to exert an outsized influence on how rankings are calculated and rewarded.
The PGA Tour is at the top, and it’s understandable that it would act to protect its position. It has also worked aggressively to suppress competitors, and I'd say their marketing and PR campaign has been effective.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I’m not sure how far down they go to award points - but I can see why they want to restrict it to 10 when they look at the way players have entered the league and also left
If the pathway was a bit more than just the 5 , if they didn’t replace players based on nationality etc then it might have been more
Also depth of the tour isn’t the same as others so I suspect 10 is a starting point and then see how LIV react
They made a few steps forward but also prob a step back as well
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Well lets not forget, June 6th 2023 - it was agreed in principle to create an organisation that would oversee mens professional golf - with parties from all sides involved in overseeing it's operation.
This should be the bones of what is required but include those that operate the ladies game as well - a committee that take people from all the tours and implements a structure in which they can all operate without prejudice or favour.
