The Footie Thread

[Tashyboy]

Fulham looking very very good. Like to narrow the field. City not knocked one over the top to Foden yet. Let’s see how second half pans out.

 

[Hobbit]

You’re missing my point, Brian, that being that the rules have become so confusing, and change so often, that common sense has become a thing of the past.

If United had scored that goal my views would be exactly the same - yes, seriously!

Unfortunately common sense is open to interpretation whereas, thankfully, a black and white rule isn’t. The rule is clear, and it’s up to the players to play until the whistle goes. 2 seasons ago you would have had a valid argument but under the new rule you haven’t.

Coincidently, I was talking to a retired EFL ref a couple of hours ago. His view was very matter of fact, almost questioning why someone would expect it to be handball.

Edit; now if you ask me do I agree with the rule… no I don’t. For me, make it any contact with the hand or arm is handball. No need for referee interpretations. But whilst the rule is there as it is, play by that rule.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It wasn’t a handball, as per the rules that were brought in this season. If the rules were different I’d say handball. It’s that simple.

Did Watmore move his arm to control the ball? No. Did Watmore score directly from that contact? No. Therefore, as per the rules, it wasn’t handball. Any bleating about it is exactly that, bleating.

Surely by controlling the ball with his hand which then allowed him to pass directly to the guy who scored the goal means they scored because of the handball - the ball was going out



That’s a handball by the definition above

If that player is a defender then it’s a penalty

 

[Hobbit]

Surely by controlling the ball with his hand which then allowed him to pass directly to the guy who scored the goal means they scored because of the handball - the ball was going out

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That’s a handball by the definition above

If that player is a defender then it’s a penalty

He didn’t control the ball with his hand, the ball hit his forearm. A still photograph doesn’t show arm/hand movement which could suggest ‘control.’

And the rule you have posted also states “unnaturally bigger.” His arms were in that position before the ball bounced up and hit him. There was no intentional movement.

The (new)rule was clearly explained last night by the commentary team. I don’t agree with the rule but I do agree with its application last night.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Surely by controlling the ball with his hand which then allowed him to pass directly to the guy who scored the goal means they scored because of the handball - the ball was going out

View attachment 40993

That’s a handball by the definition above

If that player is a defender then it’s a penalty

Here you go:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1489717750348013575

 

[Bunkermagnet]

In all seriousness, United should have steamrollered Boro last night. Yet again we were sloppy in front of goal and, to be blunt, got what we deserved.

BUT, the Boro equaliser was a farce. I know rules are rules, but the rule makers have disappeared so far up their own backsides they are in danger of turning themselves inside out.

I understand the rule. If a handball is accidental then it’s only called in the event the player using the hand then goes on to score. But referees and other officials simply must be allowed to apply common sense. If that ball had not been handled last night then Boro do not score. It really was that simple a call, Anthony Taylor should have been allowed to make it, without VAR, and applying a common sense judgement.

The rules, and the application of them, have become an embarrassment to the game.

Can't really disagree, however it's obvious many of te Utd players obviously fancied a rest otherwise how else do you explain the misses, including the Ronaldo pen flop?

 

[Billysboots]

Can't really disagree, however it's obvious many of te Utd players obviously fancied a rest otherwise how else do you explain the misses, including the Ronaldo pen flop?

Oh, I totally agree! United should have been over the hills and far away long before the equaliser.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

?It’s a grand old team to play for?

Frankie Lampard’s Blue & White Army.

 

[Jimaroid]

That’ll do. What a different performance that was. Plenty of weakness still there but moving the ball around confidently, playing forward and chasing everything down. It’s about time.

Nice result, now let’s do it again.

 

[AmandaJR]

?It’s a grand old team to play for?

Frankie Lampard’s Blue & White Army.

Always had a soft spot for Frank - hope he does well for you.

 

[fundy]

Plenty of sides be happy with Burnley 0 Watford 0, except for the 2 sides playing i expect

 

[Fade and Die]

Disappointed. Thought we were going to set a record of being the first premier League team knocked out by non league

Our squad quality and depth has really been highlighted today. We barely laid a glove on them in 90 minutes.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Reality check at the Etihad. Didn't want to go to Wembley anyway!!

 

[PJ87]

Our squad quality and depth has really been highlighted today. We barely laid a glove on them in 90 minutes.

I agree about the squad quality. The first half (in which we were out played entirely) was the second string defense with noble and kral in the middle.. got no where near them

come second half we bring on dawson, cresswell, rice, soucek and in the end fornals .. so our stronger line up was much better and scored twice with no return .. the reserves are awful . especially diop my god

 

[Bigfoot]

Having been at the Harriers v West Ham game today, it shows how a team that plays all the time can hold a team that is rotated and that Declan Rice gets in some good positions!
I’m disappointed that Harriers didn’t go through but we really showed our ability. Sometimes it’s not skill that is lacking, just opportunities

 

[clubchamp98]

Surely by controlling the ball with his hand which then allowed him to pass directly to the guy who scored the goal means they scored because of the handball - the ball was going out

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That’s a handball by the definition above

If that player is a defender then it’s a penalty

Yes I would say that’s handball.
But the rules they have messed with the past couple of seasons are the ones VAR make a mess of most.

 

[Tashyboy]

Reality check at the Etihad. Didn't want to go to Wembley anyway!!

Homer just got back half an hour ago and still trying to dry out. Bloody hole in the roof above my head ??

Anyway, Fulham were very very good. They knocked it around better than most teams I have seen at City. Tosin at centre half was an excellent buy from the City academy. When you get promoted to the Prem. If you keep that team, that’s a mid table Prem team. I was impressed. There downfall. The gap between the front line and back four was as narrow as I have seen from a team. Leaves loads of space at the back. City did have a few chances, but a penalty, OG which was going wide and a goal from a corner well let’s say you never got battered.

 

[fundy]

Homer just got back half an hour ago and still trying to dry out. Bloody hole in the roof above my head ??

Anyway, Fulham were very very good. They knocked it around better than most teams I have seen at City. Tosin at centre half was an excellent buy from the City academy. When you get promoted to the Prem. If you keep that team, that’s a mid table Prem team. I was impressed. There downfall. The gap between the front line and back four was as narrow as I have seen from a team. Leaves loads of space at the back. City did have a few chances, but a penalty, OG which was going wide and a goal from a corner well let’s say you never got battered.

If only city could afford to fix the roof eh Tashy

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes I would say that’s handball.
But the rules they have messed with the past couple of seasons are the ones VAR make a mess of most.

Ave seen the handball that’s being discussed and I think it’s a shocker of a decision. However has as been explained they followed the letter of the ( handball ) law. But if that was a defender that had handled that and leathered the ball away would it of been a penalty. ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1489548972633038849

Man Utd dealing with the situation well

I wonder how many Mendy shirts City had to exchange