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Ryder Cup 2021

Need to win the first 5 (which is unlikely but not impossible giving the pairings) then hope the US collapse under the pressure of a comeback. However even if we did somehow win the first 5 I just can't see the quality coming behind them to complete the job. The bookies have the US at 1/50 to win, which is probably about right.

Nice idea but some of the later matches will be over early. Fitzpatrick may be out last but he’ll be lucky to get past the 12th, while a load of matches ahead of him are still in the balance.
 
It would be the greatest win of all time should it happen, probably the greatest come back of all time in any sport.

Odds are heavily stacked against them but golf provides some funny results and matchplay and the Ryder Cup a different kind of pressure.

1/50 sounds right though!
 
I'm not sure the top pairings could have worked out better for Europe. On a one to one basis you can kind of see it being a good tussle. On their day etc.
The next 6 look like they will need a fair bit of luck to go their way.

Paint the board blue and make a day of it.

Fair play to rory for stepping up. He will get crucified by the media if he gets absolutely walloped.
 
What are the views on the Nicklaus - Jacklin award ? Is it “old fashioned“ and out of place ? An attempt to keep (?) golfs image as a sort of gentlemen’s agreement sport, where good performance and sportsmanship can exist side by side, in a world where “win at all costs” is the prevailing mentality.
For what it’s worth, based on current performances my nominations would be:
Europe - Lowry, Hovland, Garcia and Rahm
USA - Schauffele, Morikawa and Finau
 
What are the views on the Nicklaus - Jacklin award ? Is it “old fashioned“ and out of place ? An attempt to keep (?) golfs image as a sort of gentlemen’s agreement sport, where good performance and sportsmanship can exist side by side, in a world where “win at all costs” is the prevailing mentality.
For what it’s worth, based on current performances my nominations would be:
Europe - Lowry, Hovland, Garcia and Rahm
USA - Schauffele, Morikawa and Finau
A bit of a surprise to see Garcia in there. The most petulant little twerp on tour.
 
A bit of a surprise to see Garcia in there. The most petulant little twerp on tour.
Agree, but based on this Ryder Cup alone I think he has performed and behaved well enough to be shortlisted. I could exclude Rahm if taking his whining and whinging at other tournaments into account but he has been an example at this event.
 
Hypothetical I know. The best golfer at our Club is 19, plays off +4, nits a drive around 340. How many shots do you think he would need to win a game against one of the US team?
 
Hypothetical I know. The best golfer at our Club is 19, plays off +4, nits a drive around 340. How many shots do you think he would need to win a game against one of the US team?
Loads. McIlroy probably would have needed 4 or 5 shots down to his poor form, and I'm guessing McIlroy is still better than the 19 year old at your club. Also, I wonder how the 19 year old would do when thrown into the spotlight of the Ryder Cup and the hostile crowd.
 
What are the views on the Nicklaus - Jacklin award ? Is it “old fashioned“ and out of place ? An attempt to keep (?) golfs image as a sort of gentlemen’s agreement sport, where good performance and sportsmanship can exist side by side, in a world where “win at all costs” is the prevailing mentality.
For what it’s worth, based on current performances my nominations would be:
Europe - Lowry, Hovland, Garcia and Rahm
USA - Schauffele, Morikawa and Finau
A waste of time, I just do not see the point of it.
 
We have zero chance. Itll be over in 6 matches i think. The US are far too good and we have too many players out of form. We need some young blood coming through in Europe that can challenge and win majors and replace the old guard. Westy and Poulter et el have been incredible for us but their time is up.
 
On the assumption a bit of blue appears just to raise a sniff of hope, at what time (BST) are you predicting the hope is snuffed out?
 
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