Random Irritations

[Lord Tyrion]

Man up ?

But, but, but they are so bloomin irritating ?‍

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Meanwhile, in Scotland, our friends up there might take off their big coat as it’s a tad warrrrrrrrm ??

 

[AmandaJR]

Iddy biddy flies, corn flies?, deciding to visit our garden and make sitting outside unpleasant. Just as I'd set up my book, cold drink, shade ?. Back inside now....

Thunder flies?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Thunder flies?

I've not heard of them before but having googled the name I suspect you are right. Annoying blighters.

 

[AmandaJR]

I've not heard of them before but having googled the name I suspect you are right. Annoying blighters.

Get into everything - including sealed double glazing units. I don't think they bite but the amount that crawl on you makes you itch and itch some more. I can see why corn flies might be another name as they come around when the wheat ripens, at their worst during harvest, and then disappear again.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The dire state of reporting and debate on the country's 'leaders'.

The media can only report on the debate as it is had happened. Others can comment on the quality of the debate.

 

[chellie]

comes down to under investment in infrastructure.

Telling people not to travel is the right thing to do, those who can avoid traveling by WFH or whatever for the day relieve some of the strain on the roads, and the rails. Less people on trains make em less hot etc

we have emergency water supplies ready to go normally incase of stalled trains, even more ready for the heat wave. Think we will be handing bottles out on stations

for example we take a lot of reversing points out so the trains will run late. think we are talking of cutting the service down by 10-20% to enable the drivers to run late then finish on time as we cant afford to risk using a siding to turn them incase the points fail. tech officers on standby at termius .. prob down to 2 out of 3 platforms to mean less points and if they did fail we would be able to re open the other platform

all the drivers not driving ready to pick up trains to make them right time again



people underestimate the dangers of heat and think its a case of "manning up" those are the biggest risk because they dont think it applies to them.

altho ill believe the heat wave is here when I see my nan take her cardie off

I don't understand this. Why can't people take responsibility for taking water with them.

 

[Dando]

I don't understand this. Why can't people take responsibility for taking water with them.

You’re forgetting these are probably the same people who need the “hot contents” warnings on takeaway coffee cups

 

[PJ87]

I don't understand this. Why can't people take responsibility for taking water with them.

Pre covid the majority of passanger alarms in the am were people skipping breaky and fainting on a warm train

So doesn't surprise me in slightest

These temps are extreme tho so wouldn't surprise me to see it handed out

Will be on standby for if we get stalled trains

 

[arnieboy]

I absolutely get all of that, and understand that we are not set up for extremes, but effectively telling people not to travel at all? Really?

I remember picking up my then 8 year old daughter from primary school several years ago when it had been a beautiful 26 degree early summer’s day. I said she must have enjoyed playing out in the sunshine with her friends and was horrified to hear they had been kept inside because “it was too hot”. It’s no different in the snow - woe betide anyone who dares to play snowballs. It’s pathetic.

I get there will be difficulties - my mate drives for EMR - but we simply cannot allow the country to grind to a halt for a couple of days because it’s swelteringly hot. I wonder how other Northern European countries with a similar climate would cope.

Liked several times if possible!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Meanwhile, in Scotland, our friends up there might take off their big coat as it’s a tad warrrrrrrrm ??

It has been really pleasant up here. 18 to 20 degrees.
Don't know what all this fuss is about

 

[Swinglowandslow]

I absolutely get all of that, and understand that we are not set up for extremes, but effectively telling people not to travel at all? Really?

I remember picking up my then 8 year old daughter from primary school several years ago when it had been a beautiful 26 degree early summer’s day. I said she must have enjoyed playing out in the sunshine with her friends and was horrified to hear they had been kept inside because “it was too hot”. It’s no different in the snow - woe betide anyone who dares to play snowballs. It’s pathetic.

I get there will be difficulties - my mate drives for EMR - but we simply cannot allow the country to grind to a halt for a couple of days because it’s swelteringly hot. I wonder how other Northern European countries with a similar climate would cope.

I can see valid points on both "sides " here. On a personal level there is an excessive nanny state attitude in this Country. Kids not playing snowballs etc.
But it's all down to,lawyers.
Education authorities and teachers are now under threat of being sued if little Johnny gets hurt while at school. "You should have stopped him doing that. If he hadn't tried to do that he wouldn't have got hurt...etc etc"
It needs a lead (legislation) from government to prevent lawyers suing re events arising from normal risks at schools.
When I was nine we were snowballing in the play yard. A boy threw a snowball up in the air, came down and hit himself in the eye. Cried to the Head that someone had put a stone in the snowball and threw it( didn't say it was him!)
The head demanded of us all in that yard that the boy responsible own up, or we'd all be caned! Of course, we all got two of the best!
Happy Days!
Yes, things are namby pamby now, but re advice not to travel.I don't think it is so much for the protection of the individual, but re the pressures the system, and the infrastructure will be under when the incidents increase too much, as they will with people carrying on the same and falling foul,of the heat.
As for the railways, they must be dreading this heat if it transpires. I can see where it will cause rail/points chaos.
Anyway, as they say, stay cool?

 

[Billysboots]

I can see valid points on both "sides " here. On a personal level there is an excessive nanny state attitude in this Country. Kids not playing snowballs etc.
But it's all down to,lawyers.
Education authorities and teachers are now under threat of being sued if little Johnny gets hurt while at school. "You should have stopped him doing that. If he hadn't tried to do that he wouldn't have got hurt...etc etc"
It needs a lead (legislation) from government to prevent lawyers suing re events arising from normal risks at schools.
When I was nine we were snowballing in the play yard. A boy threw a snowball up in the air, came down and hit himself in the eye. Cried to the Head that someone had put a stone in the snowball and threw it( didn't say it was him!)
The head demanded of us all in that yard that the boy responsible own up, or we'd all be caned! Of course, we all got two of the best!
Happy Days!
Yes, things are namby pamby now, but re advice not to travel.I don't think it is so much for the protection of the individual, but re the pressures the system, and the infrastructure will be under when the incidents increase too much, as they will with people carrying on the same and falling foul,of the heat.
As for the railways, they must be dreading this heat if it transpires. I can see where it will cause rail/points chaos.
Anyway, as they say, stay cool?

100% agree. We’re terrified of litigation. Been saying as much for years.

 

[bobmac]

It's also down to money.
Companies can't afford to protect against things that only happen once in a blue moon.

 

[Crazyface]

Les Ross every bloomin' Sunday morning. No I can't switch him off the wife doesn't mind him.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The constant statements of “things were better back when …” as people discuss how things are treated differently now

Take the example of the heat wave coming - people are being asked to take extra care etc because of the raise in temps and some peoples initial thoughts are “nanny state” or “protection from lawyers” etc because when we were kids we didn’t need warnings etc

Maybe and it’s just a maybe people have learned from those previous instances that’s the heat coming is actually dangerous and can cause people serious harm -from heat exhaustion to the dangers of the sun giving skin cancer etc - risks that weren’t know in the past

Things move on and change for a reason - and not just down to the fear of being sued

 

[Billysboots]

The constant statements of “things were better back when …” as people discuss how things are treated differently now

Take the example of the heat wave coming - people are being asked to take extra care etc because of the raise in temps and some peoples initial thoughts are “nanny state” or “protection from lawyers” etc because when we were kids we didn’t need warnings etc

Maybe and it’s just a maybe people have learned from those previous instances that’s the heat coming is actually dangerous and can cause people serious harm -from heat exhaustion to the dangers of the sun giving skin cancer etc - risks that weren’t know in the past

Things move on and change for a reason - and not just down to the fear of being sued

Oh come on, Phil. People are intelligent enough to understand that, if the thermometer tiptoes past 100 degrees, they need to take on fluid, wear sunscreen and take suitable precautions. Anybody who needs to be told that extreme heat can cause medical issues really has had their head up their backside for years. Rocket science it is not.

It’s no mystery that schools, for example, started being ultra cautious when it’s very hot, very cold, very snowy and so on around the same time the “Where there’s blame, there’s a claim” brigade first brought their odious brand of legal expertise across the Atlantic from the USA. We ARE a nanny state now. We ARE litigation happy. And the two are inextricably linked.

I used to see it all the time in the cops. After I’d been in a few years, if someone was injured on duty the first words from colleagues were no longer words of concern - invariably it would be “That’ll be worth a few quid”.

Worst example I can recall was when a colleague and I arrested a fella for a public order offence. We had a struggle detaining him as he was as high as a kite on something, and ended up rolling around the floor with him. But no harm was done, or so I thought.

My colleague got a small bruise on his knee - the size of a 10p piece. He booked the prisoner in for an offence of assault police (not what the arrest was for), and promptly reported sick. The following day I watched as he walked into the station, limping on one leg, prior to walking out, limping on the other. He clearly couldn’t recall which knee “hurt” him. His visit to the station was for the purpose of commencing a claim following an injury on duty. The paperwork left in my tray to complete in support of his claim was ripped up in front of him the next time he was at work. A few months later he resigned before he could be disciplined as it turned out this wasn’t the first dodgy claim.

My point in all this is that, things have moved on and changed in the last 30/40 years - on that we agree. But they have moved on not because people have suddenly become aware that sun exposure can cause cancer, or heat can leave you dehydrated. We’ve known that for decades. They’ve moved on because, wherever there is injury or illness these days, rather than take some personal responsibility there will always be those who seek not only to blame someone else, but also to then grab every penny in compensation that they can.

Being told to stay in the cool in the next couple of days will, in part, be advice intended to protect people. But many of the measures will be in place to prevent litigation. You cannot divorce the two.

 

[North Mimms]

Iddy biddy flies, corn flies?, deciding to visit our garden and make sitting outside unpleasant. Just as I'd set up my book, cold drink, shade ?. Back inside now....

And enormous bluebottles headbutting the windows

 

[PJ87]

Oh come on, Phil. People are intelligent enough to understand that, if the thermometer tiptoes past 100 degrees, they need to take on fluid, wear sunscreen and take suitable precautions. Anybody who needs to be told that extreme heat can cause medical issues really has had their head up their backside for years. Rocket science it is not.

It’s no mystery that schools, for example, started being ultra cautious when it’s very hot, very cold, very snowy and so on around the same time the “Where there’s blame, there’s a claim” brigade first brought their odious brand of legal expertise across the Atlantic from the USA. We ARE a nanny state now. We ARE litigation happy. And the two are inextricably linked.

I used to see it all the time in the cops. After I’d been in a few years, if someone was injured on duty the first words from colleagues were no longer words of concern - invariably it would be “That’ll be worth a few quid”.

Worst example I can recall was when a colleague and I arrested a fella for a public order offence. We had a struggle detaining him as he was as high as a kite on something, and ended up rolling around the floor with him. But no harm was done, or so I thought.

My colleague got a small bruise on his knee - the size of a 10p piece. He booked the prisoner in for an offence of assault police (not what the arrest was for), and promptly reported sick. The following day I watched as he walked into the station, limping on one leg, prior to walking out, limping on the other. He clearly couldn’t recall which knee “hurt” him. His visit to the station was for the purpose of commencing a claim following an injury on duty. The paperwork left in my tray to complete in support of his claim was ripped up in front of him the next time he was at work. A few months later he resigned before he could be disciplined as it turned out this wasn’t the first dodgy claim.

My point in all this is that, things have moved on and changed in the last 30/40 years - on that we agree. But they have moved on not because people have suddenly become aware that sun exposure can cause cancer, or heat can leave you dehydrated. We’ve known that for decades. They’ve moved on because, wherever there is injury or illness these days, rather than take some personal responsibility there will always be those who seek not only to blame someone else, but also to then grab every penny in compensation that they can.

Being told to stay in the cool in the next couple of days will, in part, be advice intended to protect people. But many of the measures will be in place to prevent litigation. You cannot divorce the two.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548301142370570242

 

[Billysboots]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548301142370570242

That was an entire summer. We’re talking about two days.