Masters 2019

[USER1999]

The same 40 year olds who are no longer good enough to play on the Tour still play in The Open every year if they're a past champion. It doesn't bother me that The Masters is slightly more exclusive, if anything it makes it more special. Sure there are some older guys that probably shouldn't be playing, but we have that at every major, that doesn't take away from the field strength. All of the best players in the world make it to The Masters - 56 fewer play than play at the other Majors, but is that really a big issue? Who is missing out that should be there? It's not like politics of the invitational are getting in the way of the best players in the world competing for one of the 4 Majors - all the top players are there. Total non-issue for me.

Who is missing out? May be the next John Daly at the Open in '95. He wasnt in the top 50, etc etc. Sometimes outsiders provide the excitement at a major.

Can a short hitter still win at Augusta after all the recent lengthening? I think it is less likely now. Year on year, I think it now favours a bomber. The days of Weir, Zac, etc winning I think have gone. Some of the par 4s are now silly long.

There are so many things wrong with the Masters, in terms of stuffiness, but it won't change anytime soon, which is a shame, as it could be so much better.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

My son was watching a bit of the range coverage last night and asked a good series question to which I did not know the answer.

Does everyone there use there own type of ball or are they all hitting Prov1's for example?

Does hitting ever get stopped for them to collect and replenish stocks or do the supplier just keep feeding them more and collection is when it gets dark?

Do the balls only get hit once? (question 2 probably covers that)

If players each hit their own type of ball do an army of people have to then sort them into the correct categories after being hit so that they go back to the same person (or people who also use that ball)?

What happens to all of the balls after the week? Are they sold off, as tennis balls are at Wimbledon?

 

[Papas1982]

My son was watching a bit of the range coverage last night and asked a good series question to which I did not know the answer.

Does everyone there use there own type of ball or are they all hitting Prov1's for example?

Does hitting ever get stopped for them to collect and replenish stocks or do the supplier just keep feeding them more and collection is when it gets dark?

Do the balls only get hit once? (question 2 probably covers that)

If players each hit their own type of ball do an army of people have to then sort them into the correct categories after being hit so that they go back to the same person (or people who also use that ball)?

What happens to all of the balls after the week? Are they sold off, as tennis balls are at Wimbledon?

They certainly hit their own type of ball. Saw last year I think it was how they have little white tents full from each sponsor at events. Imagine no different here. Not sure about the collection of them and refits. Would imagine that they could collect em all and use again the following day. Doubt that happens though as pros are precious and won’t wanna use a ball that’s nit fresh for them.

After the tournament is anyone’s guess. I know at RSG after the last open there lots of the guys working in the clubhouse during the event didn’t need golf balls for quite some time (or gloves for that matter), but don’t know if that’s a one off or not.

 

[robinthehood]

Some odd rules and Mickey mouse stuff that gets forced on to us as tradition certainly detracts from it. I'll be watching though and hoping tiger or Rory win.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Paddy Power are paying out each way down to 10th position.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My son was watching a bit of the range coverage last night and asked a good series question to which I did not know the answer.

Does everyone there use there own type of ball or are they all hitting Prov1's for example?

Does hitting ever get stopped for them to collect and replenish stocks or do the supplier just keep feeding them more and collection is when it gets dark?

Do the balls only get hit once? (question 2 probably covers that)

If players each hit their own type of ball do an army of people have to then sort them into the correct categories after being hit so that they go back to the same person (or people who also use that ball)?

What happens to all of the balls after the week? Are they sold off, as tennis balls are at Wimbledon?

Went to the Staysure European Masters, which granted isn't quite in the same ball park, but all the pros had buckets and buckets of ProV1x to hit. No-one seemed bothered about other brands and they simply had a tractor and collector on the range (with windows protected) picking balls up periodically. The balls were only hit a few times (hit, picked up, hit) but I have no idea what the plan was after. I can't remember how it happened but a half empty basket seemed to come into my possession.

I remember at Wentworth in years gone by they were using ProV on the range and these were laid out in those little pyramids. I know they were then sold off after very cheaply and the marshalls and range staff all got a large number at good prices

 

[fundy]

Paddy Power are paying out each way down to 10th position.

so are Skybet and Coral, the counter is they are a worse price for most entrants (Coral especially are!) than the books paying less places

 

[Jacko_G]

I see the Thread Anchors have taken over again 🤔😂
It’s a game of golf on the telly fer Christ’s sake, embrace it 😘

I only see debate.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I see the Thread Anchors have taken over again 🤔😂
It’s a game of golf on the telly fer Christ’s sake, embrace it 😘

Didn’t take long for the predictable negative nose dive to arrive 🤦‍♂️.
Love it, the cheesy US coverage, the way over the top build up, the excitement over the weekend, bring it on!

Your two contributions to the thread are to whinge about other posters as opposed to adding something meaningful yourself ( then again that would make a change for yourself )

 

[Crazyface]

I read somewhere on line that a software/computer predictor has selected Koepka for a decent finish.

Oh, and stop arguing. Good grief it's ever bluddy thread.

 

[fundy]

I read somewhere on line that a software/computer predictor has selected Koepka for a decent finish.

Oh, and stop arguing. Good grief it's ever bluddy thread.

must be some computer to pick the long hitter whos won 3 of the last 7 majors (and yes ive backed him too)

 

[Lord Tyrion]

must be some computer to pick the long hitter whos won 3 of the last 7 majors (and yes ive backed him too)

Interesting chat on the Cut the other week about the weight loss of Koepka and how his golf has declined since then. Apparently 10-15yds shorter off the tee, timing is off. I hope you saw him eating some burgers before you lumped on him

 

[fundy]

Interesting chat on the Cut the other week about the weight loss of Koepka and how his golf has declined since then. Apparently 10-15yds shorter off the tee, timing is off. I hope you saw him eating some burgers before you lumped on him

prefer to see him as only motivated by majors hopefully the real brooks will stand up this week! certainly rather back him at 33s (and 28s 10 places) than some of the non winners at shorter prices despite the fact that the Masters is often won by people winning their first major

 

[Orikoru]

I love the Masters. Don't care that regular Joe's can't play it as I would never play it either way. Don't care about the small field because all the best players are there anyway. I just think it's a fantastic sporting event, love the hype and the build-up and everything. I love laughing at their silliness in calling the fans 'patrons' and whatnot, putting a green jacket on the winner, that kind of bombast just makes it all the more fun. I think it's probably my favourite major.

 

[r0wly86]

I'd disagree that Augusta is a bombers course, a bomber to me is someone who hits a mile but not necessarily accurate, which is fine on the run of the mill courses on the PGA with 60m wide fairways. But Augusta an inaccurate tee shot can leave you blind, in the pine straw or water.

Yes length is helpful, but that is true of any course in any competition. If you can hit PW when everyone else is hitting 8 iron of course you have an advantage.

But to win the Masters your course management has to be top notch. Hitting into the green, you need to be hitting the right part of the green if you want any chance of being close, and to do so you need to be hitting from the right part of the fairway.

Then the green are notoriously quick, players have often putted off the green by mistake, and it is easy to roll a putt 6 foot pass if you are on the wrong part of the green as above.

Unfortunately I have never been, but what I have heard is the course is very hilly, meaning that if your tee shot isn't perfect you can have an awkward stance.

It is my favourite major, it is undeniably beautiful, I love parkland courses, the way the course is set up on Sunday is ripe for charges and spectacular slumps and it is the first major and a harbinger of the better weather and more golf for me

 

[bluewolf]

Just lumped on Koepka, Moli, Fleetwood and Stenson. If I can get all 4 in the top 10 then it's a new set of CB's for me!!!!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

It's my favourite major (just ahead of the Open).
It's the one I get most excited about.
It's the one I'd pay most money to go and watch (hopefully next year)
Most of my best golf watching memories are from the Masters.
I remember every hole on the course, and can recognise what holes players are on and what shot they have, even when the commentators have no idea.

Other people don't like it very much. It's their right, as people who are totally wrong, to do so, I respect their right to be wrong, and I defend their right to be wrong - but they are wrong!

 

[pokerjoke]

It's my favourite major (just ahead of the Open).
It's the one I get most excited about.
It's the one I'd pay most money to go and watch (hopefully next year)
Most of my best golf watching memories are from the Masters.
I remember every hole on the course, and can recognise what holes players are on and what shot they have, even when the commentators have no idea.

Other people don't like it very much. It's their right, as people who are totally wrong, to do so, I respect their right to be wrong, and I defend their right to be wrong - but they are wrong!

It’s nice to be youngish and still have your memory mate,it won’t last forever.
I’m with you though I do love the Masters.

It is interesting though that some are not so keen,the players seem to love it.

 

[rksquire]

I read somewhere on line that a software/computer predictor has selected Koepka for a decent finish.

Oh, and stop arguing. Good grief it's ever bluddy thread.

I read yesterday (can't remember where) that Koepka's 'dramatic' weight lost has knocked him a bit and reduced his length, so wasn't expecting as much from him.

 

[fundy]

I read yesterday (can't remember where) that Koepka's 'dramatic' weight lost has knocked him a bit and reduced his length, so wasn't expecting as much from him.

like a timewarp in here