F1 2019

[MegaSteve]

If he never forced Leclerc off at that corner. How many times at that corner previously or after did MV take that line as a normal racing line. None. The great Ayrton Senna once said " that if you do not go for a gap when racing, you are not a racing driver". That is my point. You can overtake without doing what he did. Quite frankly if MV does that again someone will take him off. But my blame is not solely with MV. The powers that be have seen these incidents more than once this year. A comment on the BBC site hits the nail on the head. Charlie Whiting would of sorted this out by now.

I entirely agree about Charlie... He'd have taken all the drivers to one side and collectively banged their heads together... As I've already noted I believe they have contributed to the position they are currently in of having the need for stewards to get involved on too many occasions...

It was an old fashioned block pass... Exceedingly rude, not pretty but often effective..

 

[ger147]

If he never forced Leclerc off at that corner. How many times at that corner previously or after did MV take that line as a normal racing line. None. The great Ayrton Senna once said " that if you do not go for a gap when racing, you are not a racing driver". That is my point. You can overtake without doing what he did. Quite frankly if MV does that again someone will take him off. But my blame is not solely with MV. The powers that be have seen these incidents more than once this year. A comment on the BBC site hits the nail on the head. Charlie Whiting would of sorted this out by now.

The great Ayrton Senna made that statement in reply to the question why did you smash Alain Prost off the race track at the first corner and therefore win the WC.

Maybe not the best quote to use to enhance your argument...

 

[Cherry13]

Uummm... He didn't... He asked the question concede or bang wheels... The late great Ayrton Senna asked the same question on many occasions...

Is that a question he is permitted to ask within the CURRENT rules?
I get Senna used to ask that, but that doesn’t make it right or better.

 

[Cherry13]

Can we have some more races 'littered with tactical and driver errors' as I quite enjoyed yesterday's entertainment... Racing is supposed, for me, to be about a mix of skill and bravado not a game of chess conducted from the sidelines...

Absolutely it is, this is why I think yday wasn’t the spectacle it was made out to be. Very few overtakes were built up after sustained pressure and skill. Just tyre deg and different patterns in the main.
By the by, I would much rather yday to France, I agree it’s more entertaining and ultimately that is why I watch f1. I just have a more tempered view of spectacular than the broadcasters.
Another thing to add, ch4 coverage was pretty poor also in my opinion, and the host (Steve) is appalling.

 

[MegaSteve]

Is that a question he is permitted to ask within the CURRENT rules?
I get Senna used to ask that, but that doesn’t make it right or better.

Been a long time since I ploughed through the yellow book (probably not even that colour nowadays)... But, I am guessing the stewards will have applied the rules as written... So, assuming block passes are still OK...

 

[MegaSteve]

Absolutely it is, this is why I think yday wasn’t the spectacle it was made out to be. Very few overtakes were built up after sustained pressure and skill. Just tyre deg and different patterns in the main.
By the by, I would much rather yday to France, I agree it’s more entertaining and ultimately that is why I watch f1. I just have a more tempered view of spectacular than the broadcasters.
Another thing to add, ch4 coverage was pretty poor also in my opinion, and the host (Steve) is appalling.

With the reduced ch4 coverage I coughed up for sky this year... As long as I press mute whenever Ted is on the mic' the commentary tends to be level headed... Is Coulthard no longer doing commentary? Usually quite good...

 

[bobmac]

With the reduced ch4 coverage I coughed up for sky this year... As long as I press mute whenever Ted is on the mic' the commentary tends to be level headed... Is Coulthard no longer doing commentary? Usually quite good...

Ben Edwards is very knowledgeable but thinks he's commenting for radio and won't shut up. His job is to comment, not to talk non stop telling us what's just happened, we know what's just happened, we're watching it

 

[MegaSteve]

Ben Edwards is very knowledgeable but thinks he's commenting for radio and won't shut up. His job is to comment, not to talk non stop telling us what's just happened, we know what's just happened, we're watching it

Ah, Ben Edwards... He can string words together... Almost certainly, though, too many...

 

[MegaSteve]

Is that a question he is permitted to ask within the CURRENT rules?
I get Senna used to ask that, but that doesn’t make it right or better.

Oh, just for the record I am not a Max fanboy nor was I a great fan of Ayrton...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Ah, Ben Edwards... He can string words together... Almost certainly, though, too many...

Murray Walker was just as bad.

 

[MegaSteve]

Murray Walker was just as bad.

His early days in broadcasting were in radio... By his own admittance he often used too many words... But, I feel, his enthusiasm for motorsport in all forms was why he was easy to warm to...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

His early days in broadcasting were in radio... By his own admittance he often used too many words... But, I feel, his enthusiasm for motorsport in all forms was why he was easy to warm to...

He was best when he had James Hunt by his side putting him straight all the time. However without Hunt he seemed to assume the mantle of F1 commentary god, plus he always came across as having a tongue longer than Shergar had willy

 

[MegaSteve]

He was best when he had James Hunt by his side putting him straight all the time. However without Hunt he seemed to assume the mantle of F1 commentary god, plus he always came across as having a tongue longer than Shergar had willy

Loved it when he was with JH the early feistyness between them morphed into mutual respect... Having had the good fortune to have chatted with MW he is an absolute gentleman with no sign of any self importance...

As I've noted in the past, I genuinely believe many have sought/found a career in motorsport due to his enthusiasm rubbing off on them...

 

[Cherry13]

Been a long time since I ploughed through the yellow book (probably not even that colour nowadays)... But, I am guessing the stewards will have applied the rules as written... So, assuming block passes are still OK...

I must admit I’ve never read the rules in depth, and likely never will. I was just being a tad facetious with regard to ‘asking the question of banging wheels’. I love hard racing and want to see it as much as possible, but ultimately I want to see two drivers racing as fast as possible un impeded by the other, and I don’t think you should be allowed to put a fellow driver in the situation where he has to choose between hitting you or going off. Maybe I’m just soft or idealistic, but the purpose of the sport is to find the fastest driver not the bravest or most reckless.

As an aside, it’s good to get involved in a decent debate and not just a slanging match about whos right or whos wrong, and how bad the sport is.

 

[MegaSteve]

I must admit I’ve never read the rules in depth, and likely never will. I was just being a tad facetious with regard to ‘asking the question of banging wheels’. I love hard racing and want to see it as much as possible, but ultimately I want to see two drivers racing as fast as possible un impeded by the other, and I don’t think you should be allowed to put a fellow driver in the situation where he has to choose between hitting you or going off. Maybe I’m just soft or idealistic, but the purpose of the sport is to find the fastest driver not the bravest or most reckless.

As an aside, it’s good to get involved in a decent debate and not just a slanging match about whos right or whos wrong, and how bad the sport is.

Being a bit old school measure of cojones should play some part in victory... Way back in the day when Woodcote was an open corner following on from Farm straight... We'd, on practice days, position ourselves on the outside of the corner straining our ears listening for anyone the was able to take the corner, on full chat, without a confidence lift of the throttle... Generally reckoned it was the late great Ronnie Peterson who was the first to achieve it in a F1 car... One of my motorsport I was there days 👍... Proper cojones to do that...

 

[Slime]

I watched an interview this morning with Jackie Stewart, who won the British GP in 1969.
In that race he went head to head with Jochen Rindt until a few laps from the end.
During that race Stewart recalled that he and Rindt swapped places 32 times ................................. that's 32 overtakes at the head of one race.
Back then, racing was proper racing.

 

[ger147]

Another win for Hamilton and another meltdown from Vettel, smashing into the back of Verstappen.

Looking very much like Lewis is well on the way to wrapping up world title no.6.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Shocking from Vettel. He looks a loose cannon in every race at the moment

 

[Slime]

Another win for Hamilton and another meltdown from Vettel, smashing into the back of Verstappen.

Looking very much like Lewis is well on the way to wrapping up world title no.6.

In the fastest car on the grid.

 

[robinthehood]

In the fastest car on the grid.

That award goes to ricciardo ìn the Renault. Hamilton was not even top 10.