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For people who find pretty much everything offensive, it doesn't surprise me at all that you believe that to be honest.
Captain's Drive In (with a difference)
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For people who find pretty much everything offensive, it doesn't surprise me at all that you believe that to be honest.
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It is normal for many ladies though and indeed men - it’s a career for a good deal of them
Have you seen what some professional dancers wear ? Just as little as those ladies in the video
What exactly is “normalising†supposed to mean when it is normal for a lot of people ?
why is it “inappropriate†- if it was a Gatsby night at the club would it be appropiate then
People are judging the ladies without any context at all
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Haven't looked closely but I don't remember seeing everyone else dressed in 20's garb...so it doesn't look like a themed affair.
Kennysarmy
Newbie
But is n't Stevie Wonder black?
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It’s a themed drive in
We have one - this year people dressed up in RAF clothing and one Guy was dressed as a women
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Certainly not themed looking at everyone outside the clubhouse. All well and good to have a theme if it is done with taste and this in my opinion is tacky and tasteless. What if the lady captain did something similar on her drive in. I bet there would be even more protests. Surely keep it simple is the way to go and it does make you wonder if this captain has a "zany" sense of humour what else he may do in office
User20204
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The biggest shock out of all of this in the topic is that I've just found out Stevie Wonder is black 
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I assumed they were professional dancers, hired for the occasion
rksquire
Head Pro
Cringe-worthy. Embarrassing. Tacky. Ostentatious.
All of the above. And a bit of fun for a themed drive in at the club. I'm all for ensuring total equality at Clubs and in life, but we must be careful not to confuse real exploitation and sexism where it exists with something that is clearly a bit of fun. Charleston /Gatsby style troupes are available for hire - should those companies not exist? The crowd, as seen on the pan round, had a broad mix of people - young, old, male and female - I can see a major issue if the dancers were solely performing for the Captain's cronies in a private lounge whilst smoking cigars and drinking brandy. But they weren't; they were front and centre for the entire club.
Let's not go overboard with the comments and condemnation here and put it in context - these are trained dancers, hired for the occasion and no different to being employed to perform at a themed night or putting on a show at a community hall. If this is reason to be outraged, then primetime Saturday night TV (Strictly & X Factor) is in serious trouble.
All of the above. And a bit of fun for a themed drive in at the club. I'm all for ensuring total equality at Clubs and in life, but we must be careful not to confuse real exploitation and sexism where it exists with something that is clearly a bit of fun. Charleston /Gatsby style troupes are available for hire - should those companies not exist? The crowd, as seen on the pan round, had a broad mix of people - young, old, male and female - I can see a major issue if the dancers were solely performing for the Captain's cronies in a private lounge whilst smoking cigars and drinking brandy. But they weren't; they were front and centre for the entire club.
Let's not go overboard with the comments and condemnation here and put it in context - these are trained dancers, hired for the occasion and no different to being employed to perform at a themed night or putting on a show at a community hall. If this is reason to be outraged, then primetime Saturday night TV (Strictly & X Factor) is in serious trouble.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Anyone out there in the non-golfing general public who watch the video will have no idea whatsoever of the context - no idea whatsoever about what's going on. All they will see are four 'scantily' clad dancing girls being watched by a stereotypical group of golf club members. It's what golf and being a member of a golf club is all about - right?
Frankly I feel it was a rather daft and unnecessary thing for the Captain to do - good business for the participants and fun for the audience it might have been - but...social media...though maybe he hasn't got a clue about it's power and reach.
Frankly I feel it was a rather daft and unnecessary thing for the Captain to do - good business for the participants and fun for the audience it might have been - but...social media...though maybe he hasn't got a clue about it's power and reach.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
The Lady Captain it seems was a bit more dignified...
rksquire
Head Pro
I agree it is daft, but without meaning to be disrespectful, I can't agree with the rest. The performers are appropriately dressed for the type of dance being presented. I'm not sure what a stereotypical golf club crowd is but this is a still from the video (this is pretty representative of the crowd) - not exactly a baying crowd of drunk, dirty, old men. In all honesty, given the car, the attire of the crowd etc., you may well have been forgiven for thinking this is how the bride & groom were arriving for a wedding reception at a golf club. But as I said, it is daft, and given the negative criticism (unfair in my opinion), probably ill advised. But Social Media is a shockingly horrid place where context is irrelevant, and things on that should be taken with a large pinch of salt.
tugglesf239
Journeyman Pro
OH MY GOD
If that is not cultural appropriation then i do not know what is!!!!!
Steel drums?
They are basically laughing directly at the slave trade!!!!
I feel sick to the pit of my gut.
Do these whiteys have no shame?!?!?!?!?!? my god the level of Caucasian privilege that exits here is unbelievable.
etc etc blah blah blah
god i love 2019
User20204
Well-known member
I knew we'd rue the day we gave women the vote.
MendieGK
Tour Winner
I genuinely watched this video and ‘got it’ straight away. Those girls are complete in context with the car and music. Don’t see the issue at all.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
The biggest shock out of all of this in the topic is that I've just found out Stevie Wonder is black
There is a rather tasteless and possibly racist joke about that...I heard told by I think Bob Monkhouse and would have laughed - but changed days...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Are you a member of a golf club or a golfer? And would you like to have more people playing golf and joining golf clubs?
Or are you a member of the non-golfing general public - a public that knows little about golf and have a very stereotyped view of golf, golfers and golf clubs?
Dibby
Assistant Pro
I would be interested to see how non-golfers react to seeing this. Has anyone shown it to non-golfing friends and family?
I would imagine most non-golfers imagine golfers to be boring old men, and might be surprised to see this actually looks a bit fun, and not a group of stuffy old blazers, smoking cigars in a wood-panelled room.
I thought golfs problem was attracting and retaining the younger generation, who unsurprisingly see and do a lot worse when having fun.
RangeMonkey
Active member
Maybe look at some of the comments on Twitter?
â€Bell endâ€
â€Old boys clubâ€
â€Exactly why I’m in no rush to join a golf club.â€
â€Unacceptableâ€
â€Outdatedâ€
“#everydaysexism #125yearsofsexismâ€
“Embarrassing to watchâ€
User20204
Well-known member
TBH I don't really care whether you think it's tasteless or racist because you've clearly had an irony bypass when reading my post, you've chose to be offended by something that was meant to be ironic and it clearly flew right over your head.
You may respond to this reply but this will be my only response to you on this topic.
