YouTubers.

[SteveJay]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

Had me thinking what my club’s attitude should be towards YouTubers wanting to shoot a video of their round. Maybe if one of the top guys or gals wanted to, or do one with a pro, I might be OK at quieter times of the week. Publicity and all that. But the world of YouTuber golf seems to be awash with every Tom, Dick and Harriet producing videos of their rounds, with or without chums, regardless of their ability or indeed sometimes without that much knowledge of the rules or of golf etiquette.

Hmmm

I do think this might become a bigger issue as more people fancy filming a round and maybe joining the growing band of YT golfers.

I have seen a few filming at our course. Yes, some were absolutely fine, including Peter Finch & Matt Fryer, both of whom had an obviously competent cameraman which didn't delay things (both were actually in a PGA competition). I know a few others have also filmed rounds which I suspect were somewhat slower.

I witnessed some young guys filming and based on how long it took them to play the first hole, a straightforward short par 4, I certainly wouldn't want to have been behind them. Fortunately I had played and was in the clubhouse looking out at the first tee!

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

Had me thinking what my club’s attitude should be towards YouTubers wanting to shoot a video of their round. Maybe if one of the top guys or gals wanted to, or do one with a pro, I might be OK at quieter times of the week. Publicity and all that. But the world of YouTuber golf seems to be awash with every Tom, Dick and Harriet producing videos of their rounds, with or without chums, regardless of their ability or indeed sometimes without that much knowledge of the rules or of golf etiquette.

Hmmm

James Robinson and Chris Dennis address this in pretty much every video they do. They mention the time of day they’re playing 9 holes usually it’s first light whilst free keepers are out working as they’ll often stop to talk to them.

A lot of course would appreciate having them their it’s great advertising to a wider audience

 

[timd77]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

Had me thinking what my club’s attitude should be towards YouTubers wanting to shoot a video of their round. Maybe if one of the top guys or gals wanted to, or do one with a pro, I might be OK at quieter times of the week. Publicity and all that. But the world of YouTuber golf seems to be awash with every Tom, Dick and Harriet producing videos of their rounds, with or without chums, regardless of their ability or indeed sometimes without that much knowledge of the rules or of golf etiquette.

Hmmm

Which channel was this on?

 

[Orikoru]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

Had me thinking what my club’s attitude should be towards YouTubers wanting to shoot a video of their round. Maybe if one of the top guys or gals wanted to, or do one with a pro, I might be OK at quieter times of the week. Publicity and all that. But the world of YouTuber golf seems to be awash with every Tom, Dick and Harriet producing videos of their rounds, with or without chums, regardless of their ability or indeed sometimes without that much knowledge of the rules or of golf etiquette.

Hmmm

This is what I was going to say, it seems to me YouTubers normally play at the crack of dawn or just squeeze it in when the sun's going down so they're not getting in anyone's way. If he's paid twilight that suggests it's the latter, but yet there is a competition on in twilight hours?? Seems odd to me.

My club has had Seb on Golf and 'Big Wedge' filming down there a couple of times this year. I think they've actively encouraged them to come and film in order to boost publicity for the course. My club shares the videos on their socials. As I recall the times they came and filmed were early morning on a Thursday, starting on the 10th tee usually.

 

[Skytot]

Which channel was this on?

Here you go .

 

[WorldHandicapSystem]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

Had me thinking what my club’s attitude should be towards YouTubers wanting to shoot a video of their round. Maybe if one of the top guys or gals wanted to, or do one with a pro, I might be OK at quieter times of the week. Publicity and all that. But the world of YouTuber golf seems to be awash with every Tom, Dick and Harriet producing videos of their rounds, with or without chums, regardless of their ability or indeed sometimes without that much knowledge of the rules or of golf etiquette.

Hmmm

Having seen that video, I would say the members were grade A clowns. The guy filming was being held up so what is he supposed to do?
Why didn’t the group holding him up let him through?

Whether they were playing in a comp makes absolutely no difference at all. It was probably only a seniors midweek stableford anyway! The guy had paid his green fee and had his tee time. He’s as much right to be out there as anyone else, especially as the pro had given him the ok to film.

Some members are just jumped up A holes full of their own self importance.

 

[Crow]

You can be quick or you can be slow when filming a video.
The larger channels have a team go round with them, usually at least a couple of camera/drone operators. It's going to take time to get everybody in place.

As a one man set up I can be very quick, my camera is fixed to my trolley so no messing around with a tripod (some of the camera angles are crap but there you go!) and I doubt whether anyone has even realised I'm filming. I always try and find a quiet time to film and have never had any friction with other golfers. In fact I've been called through several times, just skip filming that hole.

 

[Slime]

Watched some bloke with a YouTube channel hacking around a course trying to get round in 14 over…he didn’t manage it and I’m surprised he got anywhere near tbh (16 over I think in the end). It was less than very dull…he hacked it round and I skipped through it quickly…anyway.

Point is…he really irritated some members who felt he was holding them up with all his faffing around with his camera and tripod - into the bargain they were playing a comp. He claimed he was being held up himself by a group in front, and that seemed to be the case, but he showed zero inclination to just left them through - and was towards the end quite belligerent in his attitude that as the pro shop had said it was ok and he’d paid his twilight round green fee, then he was in his rights…blah, blah blah. The members were really frustrated and irritated and he told them he’d keep filming their rants and was just going to ignore them…very well…

I think I’d have been like the members and I’d certainly have had serious questions for the pro shop.

So, what you're saying is that if he'd let them through, they'd have had nowhere to go.
What would anyone gain in that scenario?

 

[spongebob59]

In Warrens course vlogs, he always lets the members through

 

[Skytot]

You can be quick or you can be slow when filming a video.
The larger channels have a team go round with them, usually at least a couple of camera/drone operators. It's going to take time to get everybody in place.

As a one man set up I can be very quick, my camera is fixed to my trolley so no messing around with a tripod (some of the camera angles are crap but there you go!) and I doubt whether anyone has even realised I'm filming. I always try and find a quiet time to film and have never had any friction with other golfers. In fact I've been called through several times, just skip filming that hole.

Do you have a YouTube channel ?

 

[Mel Smooth]

Do you have a YouTube channel ?

It's in his signature.

Classic Golf Clubs

Hello there! Classic Golf Clubs is a channel for golfers who appreciate vintage/classic golf clubs and the history of the game. We'll take a look at some classic golf clubs and then go out and play a few holes with them. We'll discuss how to find clubs, how easy or hard they are to use, and...

www.youtube.com

 

[Mel Smooth]

Listened to the Rick Shiels Pod yesterday - no Guy as he's just become a dad, but Rick had Pete Cowen on. Don't know about anybody else but I love listening to the stories these guys can tell - Billy Foster was the same.

 

[Skytot]

Listened to the Rick Shiels Pod yesterday - no Guy as he's just become a dad, but Rick had Pete Cowen on. Don't know about anybody else but I love listening to the stories these guys can tell - Billy Foster was the same.

There’s something about Pete Cowen I can’t take too. I like Billy Foster though

 

[simsini]

Danny Mills claims he's off 6!

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Danny Mills claims he's off 6!

I’d rather watch the inside of my eyelids than either of these 2 cretins.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Ok…so most responses seem to say they’d be ok for their club to accommodate any and all YTs…regardless of status or ability, with only constraint being on day or time of day? That said I’m thinking that top courses would have to impose some limit on numbers or they’d get overrun. I just wondered.

My only other thoughts on the example I stumbled upon, are that the guy seemed decent and just trying his best…and given that we probably all know of members of our club who would be like those in the video - not all publicity is good publicity Plus he got in a bit of a tizzy and found himself rushing and not enjoying himself or doing the course justice…he should have just let the members through and taken his time.

 

[timd77]

Here you go .

Just watched it. What an ignorant pillock that member was. How was he supposed to know its competition day? And if he has a problem with singles playing in the middle of a comp, take it up with the club not the fee paying player.

Surely experience tells you that it’s not always the group immediately in front of you that’s causing the slow play? It’s happened so many times when you catch a group up ‘sorry lads, the group 2 groups in front are holding things up so it’s going to be a slow one’. Just a friendly chat is all that should happen.

I’ll never understand people getting angry at spending a bit longer in the sun playing golf.

 

[inc0gnito]

Just watched it. What an ignorant pillock that member was. How was he supposed to know its competition day? And if he has a problem with singles playing in the middle of a comp, take it up with the club not the fee paying player.

Surely experience tells you that it’s not always the group immediately in front of you that’s causing the slow play? It’s happened so many times when you catch a group up ‘sorry lads, the group 2 groups in front are holding things up so it’s going to be a slow one’. Just a friendly chat is all that should happen.

I’ll never understand people getting angry at spending a bit longer in the sun playing golf.

Because the real problem is at home getting angrier and angrier the longer you spend at the course.

 

[Backache]

I’ll never understand people getting angry at spending a bit longer in the sun playing golf.

I'm not trying to defend rude behaviour, but the reason why people get irritated by slow play is because they are not playing golf, they are having to wait to play it.

Depending on other circumstances such as how long you are waiting , what other things you may have to do , what the conditions are like etc, you may accept it with reasonable degree of equanimity . But would you be happy waiting for 10 hours because the weather was nice?

 

[timd77]

I'm not trying to defend rude behaviour, but the reason why people get irritated by slow play is because they are not playing golf, they are having to wait to play it.

Depending on other circumstances such as how long you are waiting , what other things you may have to do , what the conditions are like etc, you may accept it with reasonable degree of equanimity . But would you be happy waiting for 10 hours because the weather was nice?

Where did you get 10 hours from? I said ‘a bit longer’ and the round in question took less than 4 hours. Even if it was on track to take 4-5 hours, there’s no need for him to be so confrontational as that.

Assuming all of the people kicking off at him are members, they’ll be aware that they’re all playing in a comp and that some groups are going out earlier, who are likely to be the cause of the delays. Surely they could see that the chap filming was waiting on very shot? He was doing his level best to keep things moving quickly, including using his laser to see if they were out of range. He didn’t deserve that treatment.

The other thing is, if you’ve got to be somewhere after golf and only have say, 3-3.5 hours to get your round in, you’d check the tee sheet online, see that it was full and realise you either need to tee off first, move your plans back slightly, or just accept you can’t play. Don’t push your own issues onto everyone else on the course.