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Nor mine, beat my treble today.![]()
Nor mine, beat my treble today.![]()
To answer your question, this is whyitās so frustrating,are they scared of making a mistake?
Itās SO bad watching us.
How can Foden,Bellingham,saka,Kane,Riceā¦.
All just turn into championship players when they put on an England shirt?![]()
Or if actually watch the games youāll see he only starts the long balls when we are under constant pressure!To answer your question, this is why
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Jordan Pickfordās long balls part of Englandās problem at Euro 2024? It is impacting possession and pressing
Gareth Southgate talks of wanting to build with more control so why has goalkeeper Jordan Pickford launched the ball long more than any other player at Euro 2024?www.skysports.com
I mentioned this the other day. England simply do not know how to play against the press. Thatās not down to England. Thatās down to Southgate. Thereās a piece on that story where itās says Pickford has options to pass to Stones, Bellingham and Foden. Yet Pickford goes long to Kane who loses out. And England are on the defence again. Now there are several issues about this. If Kane does win the ball, he cannot give it to Foden or Bellingham coz they have dropped. But further more, Bellingham and Foden are now compared to championship players. They are actually trying to do there job but Southgate is not getting the message across to play out from the back. It also endorses what I have said about whatever team Southgate picks. It donāt matter, the same tactics will be played. The only difference is that another defensive midfielder will protect his defence and poor tactics.
The two teams that have kicked the most from the back, England and Scotland. Coincidence. No.
Quote from the piece.
The statistics show that Pickford has attempted to launch the ball more than any other player in the competition after two rounds of games. It is not a recipe for ball retention. It is a tactic more suited to unfancied sides than a supposedly ambitious England outfit.
Of course, this is Pickford's natural game at club level under Sean Dyche at Everton. He hit 968 long passes in the past Premier League season, 77 more than Luton goalkeeper Thomas Kaminski and over 200 more than any other player in the competition. This swarm-plot highlights just what an outlier Pickford is stylistically.
The key difference is that Dyche's tactics make sense because everybody knows this is the plan. When Everton launch the ball long, it is with a view to getting bodies around the centre-forward, winning possession high up the pitch and playing from there.
Is that the plan when Pickford looks for Kane? Not when Foden is inside his own box and Bellingham is making a similar movement towards his goalkeeper. How could they help press at the other end when Kane lost out? They had anticipated another pass entirely.
Who is that down to, and itās not rocket science to figure out. Unless you are the England manager.
To answer your question, this is why
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Jordan Pickfordās long balls part of Englandās problem at Euro 2024? It is impacting possession and pressing
Gareth Southgate talks of wanting to build with more control so why has goalkeeper Jordan Pickford launched the ball long more than any other player at Euro 2024?www.skysports.com
I mentioned this the other day. England simply do not know how to play against the press. Thatās not down to England. Thatās down to Southgate. Thereās a piece on that story where itās says Pickford has options to pass to Stones, Bellingham and Foden. Yet Pickford goes long to Kane who loses out. And England are on the defence again. Now there are several issues about this. If Kane does win the ball, he cannot give it to Foden or Bellingham coz they have dropped. But further more, Bellingham and Foden are now compared to championship players. They are actually trying to do there job but Southgate is not getting the message across to play out from the back. It also endorses what I have said about whatever team Southgate picks. It donāt matter, the same tactics will be played. The only difference is that another defensive midfielder will protect his defence and poor tactics.
The two teams that have kicked the most from the back, England and Scotland. Coincidence. No.
Quote from the piece.
The statistics show that Pickford has attempted to launch the ball more than any other player in the competition after two rounds of games. It is not a recipe for ball retention. It is a tactic more suited to unfancied sides than a supposedly ambitious England outfit.
Of course, this is Pickford's natural game at club level under Sean Dyche at Everton. He hit 968 long passes in the past Premier League season, 77 more than Luton goalkeeper Thomas Kaminski and over 200 more than any other player in the competition. This swarm-plot highlights just what an outlier Pickford is stylistically.
The key difference is that Dyche's tactics make sense because everybody knows this is the plan. When Everton launch the ball long, it is with a view to getting bodies around the centre-forward, winning possession high up the pitch and playing from there.
Is that the plan when Pickford looks for Kane? Not when Foden is inside his own box and Bellingham is making a similar movement towards his goalkeeper. How could they help press at the other end when Kane lost out? They had anticipated another pass entirely.
Who is that down to, itās not rocket science to figure out. Unless you are the England manager.
QuoteOr if actually watch the games youāll see he only starts the long balls when we are under constant pressure!
Heās probably fed up of giving the ball to a defender and then them losing it immediately to the opposition.
We hate Southgate, we want him out, but this constant blaming him for every mistake on the pitch is getting tiresome.
How do these World Class players like Foden and Bellingham lose the ability to pass to each other or fail to get past a player with the ball, or Pickford deciding to go long?
Some of it is the players Tash, they have to stand up and be counted at times.
Were are all the articles highlighting all these mistakes in the first half hour against Serbia or the first 20 against Denmark?
That's rubbish m8, we are not playing long ball and Pickford is not hardly playing any short balls. it's a Pickford plays for a poorer team hatchet job and totally not an accurate representation of what we are seeing. Pickford's long passes in general are excellent when he uses them, he is probably the best GK with long passes in the league, he's quick and accurate. HOw many passes are long against short, how many are because no one is in a position to recieve short passes ands on an on and on, total rubbishQuote
Or if actually watch the games youāll see he only starts the long balls when we are under constant pressure!
Heās probably fed up of giving the ball to a defender and then them losing it immediately to the opposition.
Am not sure he has got to a position where he is fed up because he has hardly passed it out from the back. If Pickford has reverted to his natural game it is not helping England and Southgate as a coach should see that.
You obviously didnāt read the article you quoted!Quote
Or if actually watch the games youāll see he only starts the long balls when we are under constant pressure!
Heās probably fed up of giving the ball to a defender and then them losing it immediately to the opposition.
Am not sure he has got to a position where he is fed up because he has hardly passed it out from the back. If Pickford has reverted to his natural game it is not helping England and Southgate as a coach should see that.
I agree.Or if actually watch the games youāll see he only starts the long balls when we are under constant pressure!
Heās probably fed up of giving the ball to a defender and then them losing it immediately to the opposition.
We hate Southgate, we want him out, but this constant blaming him for every mistake on the pitch is getting tiresome.
How do these World Class players like Foden and Bellingham lose the ability to pass to each other or fail to get past a player with the ball, or Pickford deciding to go long?
Some of it is the players Tash, they have to stand up and be counted at times.
Were are all the articles highlighting all these mistakes in the first half hour against Serbia or the first 20 against Denmark?
You played football, can you honestly say that when you played and something wasnāt working on the pitch you would stick with it? Or would you talk to each other and change it?I agree.
But I wonder if the players are highlighting this to GS on the training ground.
It is just the same as when he first took over.
Yes I was the captain.You played football, can you honestly say that when you played and something wasnāt working on the pitch you would stick with it? Or would you talk to each other and change it?
Thatās good news.
Everyone is guilty of thisYou obviously didnāt read the article you quoted!Otherwise youād of seen the diagram showing how much more successful Pickford has been when passing it short and how that number outweighs the long ball.
Iām not defending Pickford per say, if heās going against the managers plan he should be dropped, but you used the article to bash Southgate!
Bunkermagnet the other night listed the stats to defend TAA and you dismissed them? Strange how the stats that suit your pov are ok.![]()
letās see if he releases them,or just trying to be relevant
Come on! Do you honestly believe if England come up against an individual ārunningā the game from midfield, no one on the pitch has the gumption to pick him up or talk to each other to combat them and needs Southgate to make a decision.Yes I was the captain.
If we had a problem on the pitch it was my job to sort it out.
But pro football is a different league they have a system of playing if itās not working the manager has to get the info to the players what to change.
Usually by the subs.
I donāt think modern players can go against orders as much as the old fashion captain who was the manager on the pitch.
Captains now are just namesake only. imo of course there are some good ones.
Iād like to think so but the evidence speaks for itself.Come on! Do you honestly believe if England come up against an individual ārunningā the game from midfield, no one on the pitch has the gumption to pick him up or talk to each other to combat them and needs Southgate to make a decision.
Yes thatās how social media worksEveryone is guilty of this![]()