PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Some excellent trolling by your good self there!
If the head troll tries to shift blame onto someone else for being a troll does that mean nobody is a troll?
Must be one massive bridge these guys live under
IJames
Active member
The Stamford one?
HomecountiesJohn
Well-known member
My Trent comment was firmly tongue in cheek.
This season has been a poor one for Liverpool by their own standards in recent seasons although i understand they’ve had key injuries and players off the boil. I think we under estimate how physically and mentally draining it is for any team to compete on four fronts and be successful in them all. Last season has obviously taken its toll on them though they’ve thrown in some awful performances.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Forest beat them on Saturday, it’s been the story of their season, but there home form has been decent. I doubt they’ll make CL or Europa but should make conference league.
HomecountiesJohn
Well-known member
Some excellent trolling by your good self there!
Quite pathetic response here guys, be better.The Stamford one?
Beezerk
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Why? The main forum troll accused someone else of being a troll, deserves little chuckle surely
Does that mean I’m trolling now though
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Think you have summed it up well
The last 5 seasons have taken its toll on the squad - some of the players legs have gone very quickly , certainly didn’t expect the likes of Fabinho to drop so quickly and there have been be some injuries to key players but it doesn’t excuse some of the performances especially away from home against teams you would expect to see a better performance
I don’t think any team bar City can play at that same level and intensity over an extended period - the high level was ridiculous so the drop was always going to be severe
We will reset in the summer , refresh and go again next season
Think we will just about get Europa Lge football to give us some European football next season
Pin-seeker
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Was just a joke mate,Salah only as 15 in the prem.
HomecountiesJohn
Well-known member
Because it’s childish, petty behaviour that only ruins threads.Why? The main forum troll accused someone else of being a troll, deserves little chuckle surely
Does that mean I’m trolling now though
Chuckle away, oh no am I now feeding the troll, trolling the troll??
Swango1980
Well-known member
This whole "competing on 4 fronts last season has taken its toll" is just an excuse. maybe even a fair one, but is it acceptable? After all, there are always reasons that teams are rubbish. Maybe they are not technically good enough, maybe they are tired, maybe the manager is poor, etc.
To think a team whose fans are all saying is one of the best ever last season, suddenly puts in the embarrassing displays they have this season. Giving them a pass because they are tired seems crazy. They had the summer, just like every other team, to get themselves physically and mentally fresh again. They have professionals within Liverpool football club to advise them on how to do that as best they can. If they have come into this season mentally tired, low in confidence, then they have themselves to blame. They are either mentally fragile, or the Liverpool staff have not helped them as they should. I suspect a bigger issue for them is that they have been very poor in the transfer market, and not freshened up areas of the squad that really needed it. They were complacent.
When Man Utd won the treble in 1999, they didn't swan about feeling sorry for themselves the next season, telling everyone how tired they were. They won the league with 91 points, beating Arsenal by 18 points. They won it again the following season as well for good measure. Success comes in waves, but even when teams have been very successful in the league, including good runs in Cups, I'm sure it is pretty rare they suddenly become significantly worse the following season. But, maybe that is Klopp's playing style? Absolutely kill the players for a couple of seasons, and then accept they will become burnt out, and allow them to chill out a bit for a season? Even if that were the case, it would seem all the more important to work in parallel with a very good transfer policy
Swango1980
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We have a new moderatorBecause it’s childish, petty behaviour that only ruins threads.
Chuckle away, oh no am I now feeding the troll, trolling the troll??
IJames
Active member
I'm still surprised at how dramatic the fall has been - and right from the beginning of the season! The comment re City puzzles me somewhat too - Liverpool have a bigger squad than City! Same applies to West Ham's poor season! Moyes hasn't suddenly become a bad manager and the Euro games shouldn't have taken too much out of the squad! Owner, and family, health concerns might have contributed earlier, but nothing else obvious!
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HomecountiesJohn
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HomecountiesJohn
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My ego isn't big enough to fill such a role.We have a new moderator
IJames
Active member
Agreed, but Liverpool's performance last year was great, whereas this year to only be 8th, it's been, relatively, dire!
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Size of the squad isn’t the issue
City have the best squad in the league by a mile - they have players on the bench that will be in most teams main 11
Walker
Laporte
Silva
Foden
Phillops
They have the luxury of being able rotate more and have be relatively injury free for any major issues - they can refresh the squad as they go along
Even they haven’t been as high level as last season but will prob end up winning the league again
Our midfield provides a lot of the energy and the legs this season haven’t been there - and we prob should have brought in someone to add to the middle. It’s been 5 years with the same core for us and we have looked to refresh the front three , next will be the middle.
There are a number of factors and the level of intensity, workrate and pressing has taken its toll , we did play every game last season, a shortened pre season , injuries , loss of form , confidence - it all adds up
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Missed the game last night .
I would put TAA in midfield and get a full back.
but we all have our best teams.
City and Arsenal employed very wide men against us and caused major problems.
it’s the way to play against us .
I would put TAA in midfield and get a full back.
but we all have our best teams.
City and Arsenal employed very wide men against us and caused major problems.
it’s the way to play against us .
HomecountiesJohn
Well-known member
I agree.
I'm sure there's better informed people than me on reasons as to why they've been poor this season. I can only comment as an outsider looking in/tv reports/social media.
They played 60+ games last season its unrealistic to expect them, or any team for that matter, to perform to that high standard again and again.
Is Klopp now a bad manager? Are those players suddenly rubbish players? I dont think so.
IJames
Active member
Stop comparing it (simply) with City! I know their advantages - same as they had last year, even without Haaland for most of it! There are 6 other teams that haven't dropped off like Liverpool have! Is it lack of funds? Or bad management? The reasons you suggest may well be correct, but it really comes to one of those 2 questions (or luck, which I discount)!
clubchamp98
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We needed to strengthen the midfield.
why we didn’t we don’t know only Klopp and the owners really know.
They might tell us but they may not.
