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Not only have we got a new owner that's actually communicating with the fans, it looks like we've got additional backing from a new billionaire investor that's rumoured to have bought a share of the club.

Our best player Lewis Wing has already signed a new 3 year deal too, hopefully that will encourage the other OOC players to sign and we can add in some quality where it was lacked last season.

Fancy Sheffield Utd today in the Play Off Final today..
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Sheffield threw it away. They bossed the first half, sat back and let Sunderland into it in the second half. So much better than Sunderland, that will hurt them over the summer.
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Irrespective of local rivalries, no I’m not a Sunderland fan, Sheff Utd not going up hurts the rest of the teams in Championship. I think their parachute payment due is £39m. That’s one hell of a lump, head start, that the other teams in the Championship won’t get.
 
The playoffs can be exciting but I don’t agree with them. How can a team in third place by a clear 14 points not get promoted. ( Sheffield United this year). Might as well just make the whole season a KO comp rather than a league. Or, the playoff should be between the third placed team in the league and the third from bottom in the league above.
 
The mighty Rotherham Utd are officially 100 years old today (27 May). On this day 100 years ago, Rotherham County and Rotherham Town agreed to amalgamate into Rotherham Utd and the club are having a year of celebrations to mark this occasion. It will be interesting to see if we go to the original colours of amber with a black V on the front for this year as we didn't adopt the now familiar red and white until 1930.
 
Neilds said:
The mighty Rotherham Utd are officially 100 years old today (27 May). On this day 100 years ago, Rotherham County and Rotherham Town agreed to amalgamate into Rotherham Utd and the club are having a year of celebrations to mark this occasion. It will be interesting to see if we go to the original colours of amber with a black V on the front for this year as we didn't adopt the now familiar red and white until 1930.
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So the new kits have been released for our centenary year and they are sticking with the red and white for our first kit but are paying tribute to Rotherham Town and Rotherham County (who joined to form RUFC) with an amber and black kit (County) and black and white stripe (Town) for the change kits.
 
Middlesbrough sack Michael Carrick…. Right or wrong?

He became Boro manager in Oct ‘22, turning round their form and finishing 4th that season. They finished 8th in the 23/24 season and 10th last season.

What has gone wrong? As ever, in the lower divisions, money has played a big part. Boro have had to sell to get anywhere near balancing the books. Add that to a woeful injury record in the last few seasons.

Selling Marcus Tavernier a few seasons back hurt. Chuba Akpom scored 31 goals two seasons ago but was sold at the end of that season. Morgan Rogers bought for peanuts but sold halfway through his first season for a very tidy profit. Djed Spence looked good but clashed with Warnock and was loaned out to Forest. Looked very good there, and Carrick could have brought him back mid loan. He was sold to Spurs. Isiah Jones was torturing defenders, had a poor spell which Carrick couldn’t rectify, and sold on to Luton. Then there’s a few very good academy players sold on for a nice profit, but perhaps one or two that shouldn’t have been sold. Nathan Woods looked like an exceptional youngster as a central defender, and captained England U21’s several times - gutted to see him go.

January saw the sale of Latte Lath, £22m, an outstanding striker. And Ben Doak on loan from Liverpool picked up a season ending injury. Bringing in cheap players in the January window, hoping to replace those two was at best naive. Those replacements were sold by their clubs for a reason…

Expecting the Boro to make the play off’s after selling their star striker who not only scored for fun but also set up a number of goals for Tommy Conway, Scottish international, was a big ask.

Sacking Carrick after selling from under him was a bit harsh.

What will the incoming manager inherit? A very poor squad. Several key players from last season were loaners. Jonny Howson, club captain, was 37 last month and looked off the pace when he finally arrived back from injury. Hayden Hackney, a very good midfielder, is expected to be sold for a very tidy sum - Man Utd & Porto being two clubs named as looking at him. Luke Ayling is 33 and looked slow.

Relegation fodder?
 
@Hobbit I think it is a very harsh decision and I don't think he will struggle to get work elsewhere. Every season he has had the rug pulled from under him yet is expected to get them promoted still. I'm surprised at the chairman on this one, he is usually better than this.

The Bristol City manager has just moved to Norwich, I wonder if they will go for him. It would be a good fit.
 
Hobbit said:
Middlesbrough sack Michael Carrick…. Right or wrong?

He became Boro manager in Oct ‘22, turning round their form and finishing 4th that season. They finished 8th in the 23/24 season and 10th last season.

What has gone wrong? As ever, in the lower divisions, money has played a big part. Boro have had to sell to get anywhere near balancing the books. Add that to a woeful injury record in the last few seasons.

Selling Marcus Tavernier a few seasons back hurt. Chuba Akpom scored 31 goals two seasons ago but was sold at the end of that season. Morgan Rogers bought for peanuts but sold halfway through his first season for a very tidy profit. Djed Spence looked good but clashed with Warnock and was loaned out to Forest. Looked very good there, and Carrick could have brought him back mid loan. He was sold to Spurs. Isiah Jones was torturing defenders, had a poor spell which Carrick couldn’t rectify, and sold on to Luton. Then there’s a few very good academy players sold on for a nice profit, but perhaps one or two that shouldn’t have been sold. Nathan Woods looked like an exceptional youngster as a central defender, and captained England U21’s several times - gutted to see him go.

January saw the sale of Latte Lath, £22m, an outstanding striker. And Ben Doak on loan from Liverpool picked up a season ending injury. Bringing in cheap players in the January window, hoping to replace those two was at best naive. Those replacements were sold by their clubs for a reason…

Expecting the Boro to make the play off’s after selling their star striker who not only scored for fun but also set up a number of goals for Tommy Conway, Scottish international, was a big ask.

Sacking Carrick after selling from under him was a bit harsh.

What will the incoming manager inherit? A very poor squad. Several key players from last season were loaners. Jonny Howson, club captain, was 37 last month and looked off the pace when he finally arrived back from injury. Hayden Hackney, a very good midfielder, is expected to be sold for a very tidy sum - Man Utd & Porto being two clubs named as looking at him. Luke Ayling is 33 and looked slow.

Relegation fodder?
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Seems like it’s brutal in the Championship and managers jumping or being sacked on a regular occurrence

Carrick seemed a good manager learning his trade whilst trying to build at Boro

Interesting to see where he goes next and who they go for
 
Hobbit said:
Middlesbrough sack Michael Carrick…. Right or wrong?

He became Boro manager in Oct ‘22, turning round their form and finishing 4th that season. They finished 8th in the 23/24 season and 10th last season.

What has gone wrong? As ever, in the lower divisions, money has played a big part. Boro have had to sell to get anywhere near balancing the books. Add that to a woeful injury record in the last few seasons.

Selling Marcus Tavernier a few seasons back hurt. Chuba Akpom scored 31 goals two seasons ago but was sold at the end of that season. Morgan Rogers bought for peanuts but sold halfway through his first season for a very tidy profit. Djed Spence looked good but clashed with Warnock and was loaned out to Forest. Looked very good there, and Carrick could have brought him back mid loan. He was sold to Spurs. Isiah Jones was torturing defenders, had a poor spell which Carrick couldn’t rectify, and sold on to Luton. Then there’s a few very good academy players sold on for a nice profit, but perhaps one or two that shouldn’t have been sold. Nathan Woods looked like an exceptional youngster as a central defender, and captained England U21’s several times - gutted to see him go.

January saw the sale of Latte Lath, £22m, an outstanding striker. And Ben Doak on loan from Liverpool picked up a season ending injury. Bringing in cheap players in the January window, hoping to replace those two was at best naive. Those replacements were sold by their clubs for a reason…

Expecting the Boro to make the play off’s after selling their star striker who not only scored for fun but also set up a number of goals for Tommy Conway, Scottish international, was a big ask.

Sacking Carrick after selling from under him was a bit harsh.

What will the incoming manager inherit? A very poor squad. Several key players from last season were loaners. Jonny Howson, club captain, was 37 last month and looked off the pace when he finally arrived back from injury. Hayden Hackney, a very good midfielder, is expected to be sold for a very tidy sum - Man Utd & Porto being two clubs named as looking at him. Luke Ayling is 33 and looked slow.

Relegation fodder?
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Harsh decision for sure...but rumours of Cooper or Edwards coming in to replace him.

If they decide on Cooper, you'll be fine. The squad he inherited at Forest was threadbare and worse than Boro's current squad. He'll have you performing and I wouldn't be surprised if you were challenging for the playoffs by bringing in a couple of players (either on loan or otherwise)
 
Aztecs27 said:
Harsh decision for sure...but rumours of Cooper or Edwards coming in to replace him.

If they decide on Cooper, you'll be fine. The squad he inherited at Forest was threadbare and worse than Boro's current squad. He'll have you performing and I wouldn't be surprised if you were challenging for the playoffs by bringing in a couple of players (either on loan or otherwise)
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The betting sees Steve Gerrard as 6/4 favourite. I’d sooner have my eyes scooped out with a wooden spoon than see that drunken thug at the Boro.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
How are you feeling about the new appointment? Rob Edwards, former Luton. (I've corrected this, I wrong the wrong christian name)
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He got them promoted, which is a positive. But being manager of a newly promoted Championship club invariably means relegation and the sack. I don’t see the relegation as a negative - the gulf is so wide it’s almost a given.

My concern is why has the announcement of his appointment taken so long. For me, that is a PR gaffe. It feels like there’s something wrong behind the scenes. Clubs need to stay connected to their fan base, and clear, concise communication is key. This last week has been farcical.
 
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Julien Stephan new QPR manager. I’m relieved to hear it’s someone I’ve never heard of.

If it was a recognised name (e.g. Rooney, Gerrard) they would cost a fortune and be an absolute disaster. We wouldn’t attract anyone recognised and credible.
 
Hobbit said:
He got them promoted, which is a positive. But being manager of a newly promoted Championship club invariably means relegation and the sack. I don’t see the relegation as a negative - the gulf is so wide it’s almost a given.

My concern is why has the announcement of his appointment taken so long. For me, that is a PR gaffe. It feels like there’s something wrong behind the scenes. Clubs need to stay connected to their fan base, and clear, concise communication is key. This last week has been farcical.
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Isn't it Rob Edwards, former Luton boss who has been appointed?

It wasn't the relegation from the Premier League that cost Edwards his job, it was dismal form the next year that eventually ended in another relegation when Luton dropped into League 1.
 
sunshine said:
Julien Stephan new QPR manager. I’m relieved to hear it’s someone I’ve never heard of.

If it was a recognised name (e.g. Rooney, Gerrard) they would cost a fortune and be an absolute disaster. We wouldn’t attract anyone recognised and credible.
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Strong rumours you're signing Mbengue from us on a free.

Very good player. Don't be fooled by how skinny his legs are! He's a real battler, super fast, likes to bring the ball forward and will be badly missed.
 
Not strictly EFL as they got relegated to the Conference last year, but the BBC has an interesting article on Morecambe and their suspension from the league.

The current owner, who has been trying to sell for nearly 3 years, has been a director of 25 companies - 18 have been either dissolved, voluntarily dissolved, put into administration, put into liquidation, or put into receiver action (the precursor stage to liquidation). He still managed to pass the EFL test for directors as a fit and proper person!😲🤯

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c860979gg64o
 
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