The Cricket Thread

[Wilson]

I didn’t realise that the head groundsman from the first test was sacked and then BCCI stepped and controlled the pitches

I think thah says it all about the pitches - provide one that a bit fairer to both sides - sacked , provide one that favours the home heavily and you will be fine

Whilst England havent played well a lot has been been pointed in the favour of the home side - the third umpire at some stage was close to cheating

I thought CH4 did well with the coverage - apart from when Ranford was included , the commentary from the home broadcasters though ?‍

I saw about the groundsman being sacked today, unbelievable!

 

[Mudball]

I saw about the groundsman being sacked today, unbelievable!

I did some digging.. looks like BCCI fired their guy who was supposed to oversee the pitch making. He was appointed before the first test to help the local groundsman.
The pitch making chief groundsman from the local cricket association was the same guy for the second match. Typical local political drama for control.
Airhorn jumped on it to get more retweets. Nothing to see here but still does not smell right

 

[Mudball]

Another blooper by the 3rd umpire? In real time it looks like the batsman did not know whree the ball was

https://twitter.com/x/status/1369672784289427457

 

[patricks148]

Another blooper by the 3rd umpire? In real time it looks like the batsman did not know whree the ball was

https://twitter.com/x/status/1369672784289427457

i thinks its because he kicks the ball away from the fielder, but who knows!!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Harsh. He is walking backwards, not looking at the ball. There doesn't look to be any conscious decision to kick the ball.

I'd be embarrassed as the fielding team appealing for that.

 

[Beezerk]

Harsh. He is walking backwards, not looking at the ball. There doesn't look to be any conscious decision to kick the ball.

I'd be embarrassed as the fielding team appealing for that.

I think you're giving him too much benefit of the doubt, he knows where the ball is for me and gets in the way.

 

[Mudball]

i thinks its because he kicks the ball away from the fielder, but who knows!!

i dont think he has seen the ball.. he was looking at the runner.. then he goes backwards and accidently kicks the ball.. He may have physically got in the way of the bowler

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I think you're giving him too much benefit of the doubt, he knows where the ball is for me and gets in the way.

I'm a nice person who thinks the best of people ?.

Genuinely, I don't think he is aware but the umpire sided with you so you are not on your own.

 

[Mudball]

I'm a nice person who thinks the best of people ?.

Genuinely, I don't think he is aware but the umpire sided with you so you are not on your own.

I am wondering what camera angle was the 3rd umpire looking at to conclusively say he is out. The soft signal was out, but you can argue that the onfield umpire was blind sided by the bowler.

 

[Beezerk]

I'm a nice person who thinks the best of people ?.

Genuinely, I don't think he is aware but the umpire sided with you so you are not on your own.

He looks down when the shot is played so has an idea where the ball is, then looks down again as he's going back and boots the ball, all at the same time as moving across to his left and blocking the bowler. Quite clever in a crafty way really ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

He looks down when the shot is played so has an idea where the ball is, then looks down again as he's going back and boots the ball, all at the same time as moving across to his left and blocking the bowler. Quite clever in a crafty way really ?

Blimey, you're a tough 3rd umpire. You'll be giving offside for fingernails next ?

 

[Mudball]

He looks down when the shot is played so has an idea where the ball is, then looks down again as he's going back and boots the ball, all at the same time as moving across to his left and blocking the bowler. Quite clever in a crafty way really ?

Did the batsman not raise his arms to say he did not do anything knowingly... reminded me of Stokesy's dive at the WC finals which bounced off for a boundary. He raised his arms in a similar fashion...

 

[Beezerk]

Did the batsman not raise his arms to say he did not do anything knowingly... reminded me of Stokesy's dive at the WC finals which bounced off for a boundary. He raised his arms in a similar fashion...

I'm not sure, I was too busy watching the bowler going off it

 

[patricks148]

must be a bit of needle going on for a team to even appeal for that in the first place

 

[Wilson]

Is he being given out, solely because the umpire felt he kicked the ball away deliberately? I’m not up to speed on the wording of the rule, but it all looked accidental to me.

 

[3offTheTee]

Does not sound like Alex Hayles is on Morgan’s list for the future. This is despite his recent performances in Australia

 

[sunshine]

Another blooper by the 3rd umpire? In real time it looks like the batsman did not know whree the ball was

https://twitter.com/x/status/1369672784289427457

Don't think you can blame the 3rd umpire here. The soft signal was out, so in the opinion of the on field umpire the batsman has obstructed play. The 3rd umpire isn't going to find any evidence to over-turn the decision because it's wholly subjective.

If the soft signal was not out... probably would have remained not out. Although it's possible he deliberately kicked the ball away, surely the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Tongo]

Does not sound like Alex Hayles is on Morgan’s list for the future. This is despite his recent performances in Australia

The whole situation is ridiculous now and smacks of a personal vendetta. Morgan's made his point, move on. Other players in the past have returned from drugs bans (both recreational and banned) without anything near this amount of drama. Morgan's whole 'trust' mantra is complete baloney. Imagine if Hales had done something serious that ended up with a court appearance and potential jail time. (Hint, hint, no issue with 'trust there!) This is a sports team, not a marriage. Personally i think Morgan is only able to keep this trope going cos England won the 2019 World Cup. If they dont win the T20 World Cup without Hales then questions will likely, and correctly, be asked cos on a purely sporting basis Hales would be in the squad.

 

[Mudball]

The whole situation is ridiculous now and smacks of a personal vendetta. Morgan's made his point, move on. Other players in the past have returned from drugs bans (both recreational and banned) without anything near this amount of drama. Morgan's whole 'trust' mantra is complete baloney. Imagine if Hales had done something serious that ended up with a court appearance and potential jail time. (Hint, hint, no issue with 'trust there!) This is a sports team, not a marriage. Personally i think Morgan is only able to keep this trope going cos England won the 2019 World Cup. If they dont win the T20 World Cup without Hales then questions will likely, and correctly, be asked cos on a purely sporting basis Hales would be in the squad.

pub talk was that the whole bristol thingi was led by Hayles... he then hung Stokes dry on it. The 'trust' bit may explain that angle. Dont shoot the messager, I was 2 pints down when i heard that..

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The whole situation is ridiculous now and smacks of a personal vendetta. Morgan's made his point, move on. Other players in the past have returned from drugs bans (both recreational and banned) without anything near this amount of drama. Morgan's whole 'trust' mantra is complete baloney. Imagine if Hales had done something serious that ended up with a court appearance and potential jail time. (Hint, hint, no issue with 'trust there!) This is a sports team, not a marriage. Personally i think Morgan is only able to keep this trope going cos England won the 2019 World Cup. If they dont win the T20 World Cup without Hales then questions will likely, and correctly, be asked cos on a purely sporting basis Hales would be in the squad.

I think you may well find that his continued exclusion may have more to do with relationships within the team than his recent problems with substances.