The Cricket Thread

[Deleted member 15344]

I am increasingly moving away from the pitch thing. Agree 2&3 had difficult pitches but equally would Eng not have a green top to favour our ABBA - Anderson, Broad, Ben stokes and Archer? Folks like Rohit, Fokes, Lawrence and Pant showed batting was possible if the opposition chooses seamers on a turning pitch. Root was about a day late in bringing himself on.

8) hot Indian conditions

England don’t prepare “green tops” in England - they appear to try and provide more balanced wickets to try and get a more even game so it comes down to the skill of the players. Hence why it seems the Test series held in England seem to be a more balanced affair between all nations

Maybe they should prepare pitches for favour their seem attack more often

If all the pitches were like the first one then this would have been a closer affair

But is also shows how India are the top test nation at the moment - they have cleaned up with Kohli contributing much

 

[fundy]

England don’t prepare “green tops” in England - they appear to try and provide more balanced wickets to try and get a more even game so it comes down to the skill of the players. Hence why it seems the Test series held in England seem to be a more balanced affair between all nations

Maybe they should prepare pitches for favour their seem attack more often

even thats being generous imho, they try and prepare batsman friendly pitches that ensure the game last 5 days to maximise revenue

 

[Mudball]

Well played Lawrence.. well deserved 50.. just like sending young spinners to the subcontinent.. some young batsman need time in India

 

[Imurg]

Come on Jimmy

 

[Blue in Munich]

even thats being generous imho, they try and prepare batsman friendly pitches that ensure the game last 5 days to maximise revenue

Not withstanding your natural cynicism/realism (delete as applicable ) regarding the governing body, should more neutral conditions not be prepared to allow the better team to prevail? Some of the conditions here have been so biased as to be ridiculous, albeit we have shot ourselves in the foot on more than one occasion.

 

[Imurg]

Oh well....

 

[Blue in Munich]

Shall we start a sweep? An innings and 67 runs for me.

Optimist !

But I'll go for an innings and 59 runs

Shocking all round from England in this game. Inning and 14 I’m going with.

We're not going to hear the end of this...

 

[Blue in Munich]

Oh well....

Since you asked so nicely...

 

[Mudball]

When Root does not score... Eng gets out cheaply...

since Australia series.. when Kohli does not score... it does not seem to matter. No 7-8-9 now threatening to make a ton

 

[fundy]

Not withstanding your natural cynicism/realism (delete as applicable ) regarding the governing body, should more neutral conditions not be prepared to allow the better team to prevail? Some of the conditions here have been so biased as to be ridiculous, albeit we have shot ourselves in the foot on more than one occasion.

For me there should be a minimum required condition and then the local board should have freedom after that. There used to be guidance that included the top not going on the wicket etc as to what is acceptable. At least 2 of the decks used in this series would be outside those parameters. Worst thing that could happen with the pitches in this series was England winning the first test!

Still think we will see generally flat slow decks for the reverse series back in England, not sure our advantage on a real green one would exist too much either

 

[rudebhoy]

I’m still leaving Pitches at 1 because the deck on the first test was half decent and well over 1000 runs were scored but there were also 40 wickets taken. Fair contest between bat and ball.

Decks in the rest of the tests caused games to end in 3 days or less and each has yielded less than 1000 runs and wickets falling in clumps.

Don't think there was much wrong with the pitch in this test. India batting second and getting 365 points to that.

If England hadn't won the toss and batted first, this test would have lasted a good bit longer.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

England were totally outfoxed by India after the first test. We put all our eggs in the day/night test with our lauded seam attack so the Indians gave us a spin track to nullify Anderson and co. After that we assumed each track was goign to be a spin field and each time they were one step ahead.
Yes our spin attck is no where their level, and yes our batsmen need a rethink, but also the preconcieved ideas and planning were useless and no-where near where they should have been.
I just hope they get the telegraph fees back they sent for their thinking and tactics.

 

[Mudball]

So is the World Test final now between Kiwis and India in Eng? So 2 big teams playing in neutral conditions - pitch prepared by neutral groundsman, ECB wanting 5 day revenue and neutral umpire.

 

[Wabinez]

So is the World Test final now between Kiwis and India in Eng? So 2 big teams playing in neutral conditions - pitch prepared by neutral groundsman, ECB wanting 5 day revenue and neutral umpire.

Is it not NZ v India?

 

[USER1999]

Is it not NZ v India?

You might want to rethink that post ?

 

[fundy]

So is the World Test final now between Kiwis and India in Eng? So 2 big teams playing in neutral conditions - pitch prepared by neutral groundsman, ECB wanting 5 day revenue and neutral umpire.

neutral conditions, ie dictated by the BCCI

 

[Wabinez]

You might want to rethink that post ?

The original post has now been edited ?
it has made me look a chump now though

 

[Blue in Munich]

The original post has now been edited ?
it has made me look a chump now though

Schoolboy error not quoting the incorrect post, thus sparing your blushes.

 

[Wabinez]

Schoolboy error not quoting the incorrect post, thus sparing your blushes.

I did quote the correct post!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I didn’t realise that the head groundsman from the first test was sacked and then BCCI stepped and controlled the pitches

I think thah says it all about the pitches - provide one that a bit fairer to both sides - sacked , provide one that favours the home heavily and you will be fine

Whilst England havent played well a lot has been been pointed in the favour of the home side - the third umpire at some stage was close to cheating

I thought CH4 did well with the coverage - apart from when Ranford was included , the commentary from the home broadcasters though ?‍