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I just think it’s pathetic that people will spin this test as being won by cheating if Australia go on to win.

I’m not sure there are many complaints of cheating. I certainly haven’t claimed that. And most have accepted Bairstow was a bit of a chump.

But there are such things as sportsmanship and class. And I suspect I am not alone in thinking the Australians have shown a sad lack of both this morning.
 

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I'd hate it if we did it and then didn't take back the appeal. Clearly not trying to gain any advantage. Stupid of Bairstow, but feels wrong to me.
At lunch, Sky showed a prev instance when England did the same.. throw by Duckett or someone against NZ..

Hate to be at the receiving end but fair play by Aussies (never would say that).. bairstow as a ‘keeper’ should have known better ..

Seems to have fired up Stoksey .. go for it boy
 

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Mankad is trying to gain advantage. The one they showed the batsman started to take a run and then called "no run". I found both to be VERY different to this incident.
 

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Mankad is trying to gain advantage. The one they showed the batsman started to take a run and then called "no run". I found both to be VERY different to this incident.
Ever seen a batsmen stumped when they lose balance and stumble forward out of the crease? They aren’t advancing down the track to get an advantage but the stumping stands.
 

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I’m not sure there are many complaints of cheating. I certainly haven’t claimed that. And most have accepted Bairstow was a bit of a chump.

But there are such things as sportsmanship and class. And I suspect I am not alone in thinking the Australians have shown a sad lack of both this morning.
Sportsmanship is playing within the rules and accepting when you’re out.
 

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Ever seen a batsmen stumped when they lose balance and stumble forward out of the crease? They aren’t advancing down the track to get an advantage but the stumping stands.

Again I'd see that very diferently. Bowler gets batsman off balance - hats off to him. This was clearly a sense the ball was dead. Stupid lack of concentration but doesn't feel right to me.
 

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At lunch, Sky showed a prev instance when England did the same.. throw by Duckett or someone against NZ..

It was Pope, running out De Grandhomme, though there was a key difference in that CDG left his crease in playing the ball and never returned to his ground whereas YJB left his believing the ball dead. He was wrong, though given the bowlers end umpire had started to walk away and had Green's cap unclipped to return you can sort of see the grey area.
 

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At lunch, Sky showed a prev instance when England did the same.. throw by Duckett or someone against NZ..

Hate to be at the receiving end but fair play by Aussies (never would say that).. bairstow as a ‘keeper’ should have known better ..

Seems to have fired up Stoksey .. go for it boy

There was a subtle difference with that incident. De Grandhomme set off as though he was trying to pinch a single, as though trying to force a fielding error.

Not sure the two incidents should really be compared if I’m honest.
 

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It was Pope, running out De Grandhomme, though there was a key difference in that CDG left his crease in playing the ball and never returned to his ground whereas YJB left his believing the ball dead. He was wrong, though given the bowlers end umpire had started to walk away and had Green's cap unclipped to return you can sort of see the grey area.
@Timmy....... this is it ^^^. Bairstow had made it clear he'd made his ground whilst the ball was in keeper's hands + umpires were also on the move. Very grubby 'under-arm' Aussies again.
 

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There was a subtle difference with that incident. De Grandhomme set off as though he was trying to pinch a single, as though trying to force a fielding error.

Not sure the two incidents should really be compared if I’m honest.
Cheating Aussies don't do subtle. :unsure: :unsure:
 
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Stupid by Bairstow - lack of awareness and smart thinking by Carey but it has a bit of a stench attached to it. It is the sort of mentality that Aussies have in cricket
 

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There was a subtle difference with that incident. De Grandhomme set off as though he was trying to pinch a single, as though trying to force a fielding error.

Not sure the two incidents should really be compared if I’m honest.
I don't think there is even a subtle difference, they aren't comparable at all.
 
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