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the Root/English template is to declare once he knows that the opposition cannot get it. Too late to ensure a fight. It can only be an English win or more likely a draw. You want to give the opportunity to go for it. Make it more interesting. But you can’t blame him for playing safe. Unlike Cummins, he does not have a dependable firepower to take 10 wickets on the last day..
As you posted...Can't really bame him for playing safe - and hoping! It's not the tactics that are 'wrong', it's the lack of attacking firepower - and maybe only 1 threat would be needed. Certainly worked for NZ.
FWIW, my view is that pitches/conditions in England simply don't encourage the sort of bowling that produces that 'firepower' - unlike those of Australia or West Indies, which also reduce the effects of what does work in England. One possible solution could be to encourage talented young quickies to play abroad, but that might be a bit radical for the very conservative/selfish Counties!
 

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I’m watching England being given the runaround by the Swiss at Wembley. I take it our cricketers are making inroads into the West Indies lead?

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Will be done and dusted today then - can’t recall the last time the England team was this poor - maybe when we lost to NZ at home before Fletcher came in ?
 

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Saw the tail end of India v SA woman’s WC.. last 2 balls and 2 runs to win for SA. SA batter holes out in the deep. But it is called a no ball. I must say it must be the harshest no ball.. surely BCCI is going to penalise the third umpire
 
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So that’s it done and dusted , really poor England and led imo by a poor captain who surely must step down now , would also expect the likes of Harrison to move aside.

But I’m not sure what the ECB expected when they started the stupid 100 - it was never going to improve the test team.

Time to get the best coach there is regardless of their nationality
 

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So that’s it done and dusted , really poor England and led imo by a poor captain who surely must step down now , would also expect the likes of Harrison to move aside.

But I’m not sure what the ECB expected when they started the stupid 100 - it was never going to improve the test team.

Time to get the best coach there is regardless of their nationality

This came up at the Dads dinner last night … question is who will want that poisoned chalice? No one other than Roots out there
 

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But I’m not sure what the ECB expected when they started the stupid 100 - it was never going to improve the test team.
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It was never (directly) intended to!
From the announcement....
'The action-packed new 100-ball competition – designed to open cricket up to more families and young people'
Obviously with hopes/expectations that some of the participants will continue to other forms of the game.
 
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This came up at the Dads dinner last night … question is who will want that poisoned chalice? No one other than Roots out there

Imo Stokes is there best choice we have right now but not sure if he would take it ,

It’s a shame that Burns just fell apart as he was a choice , James Vince as well

Can’t see much option in the squad
 

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Imo Stokes is there best choice we have right now but not sure if he would take it ,

It’s a shame that Burns just fell apart as he was a choice , James Vince as well

Can’t see much option in the squad

I would love to see Stokes take it, but he has already said no.. I rather have him as a good player rather than a part time captain.

Burns has Surrey captaining experience but can’t even make the team at the moment. That was before the strange ECB fine
 
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I would love to see Stokes take it, but he has already said no.. I rather have him as a good player rather than a part time captain.

Burns has Surrey captaining experience but can’t even make the team at the moment. That was before the strange ECB fine

I think Stokes would only take it if Root stepped down , if Root was sacked then he wouldn’t touch it

The outsider could well be someone like Abell , been excellent as our captain and superb middle order bat ,

Seen some articles mentioning Billings and also the Warks captain
 

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I think Stokes would only take it if Root stepped down , if Root was sacked then he wouldn’t touch it

The outsider could well be someone like Abell , been excellent as our captain and superb middle order bat ,

Seen some articles mentioning Billings and also the Warks captain

Agree on Stokes-Root

Moen?? Or past his prime ..
 
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Agree on Stokes-Root

Moen?? Or past his prime ..

34 now and too many times has walked away from red ball cricket - don’t think he would ever have been the right person

It’s a struggle right now , in the past there appeared to be someone waiting to step up
 

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Stokes as captain? Not for me. We’ve been down the route of having our talisman captain the side with Botham, Flintoff and KP. Tried, tested, and a miserable failure every time.

Leave him to play without the burden, a considerable one at that, of trying to captain us out of the biggest rut we’ve been in for years.
 

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Shoudlve given it to Broad or Andersen temporarily a couple of years ago, struggling to find a better option now still lol

Utter poisoned chalice and tbh anyone offered it should probably turn it down

Give it to Johnny :D
 

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Shoudlve given it to Broad or Andersen temporarily a couple of years ago, struggling to find a better option now still lol

Utter poisoned chalice and tbh anyone offered it should probably turn it down

Give it to Johnny :D
There are reasons Broad and Anderson wouldnt get it.:)
 
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