PJ87
Journeyman Pro
To be fair it's bumped my post
Meh people prob aren't that interested but someone might find the numbers useful and consider a switch
If you help one person in life it's worth the effort
The all things EV chat thread
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To be fair it's bumped my post
Meh people prob aren't that interested but someone might find the numbers useful and consider a switch
If you help one person in life it's worth the effort
larmen
Head Pro
I am not sure if the car is worth it for your wife, just based on 3k miles?
The more you drive the cheaper it gets and the more you make up your up front cost, but where is the switch point? I guess it’s just ‘it is what it is’ and enjoy it rather than financial gain there?
I am a low mileage driver and would like one, but so far it isn’t worth to exchange it until my 57 plate Focus dies.
The more you drive the cheaper it gets and the more you make up your up front cost, but where is the switch point? I guess it’s just ‘it is what it is’ and enjoy it rather than financial gain there?
I am a low mileage driver and would like one, but so far it isn’t worth to exchange it until my 57 plate Focus dies.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Your right it prob isn't. However the Alhambra was 8 years old. We don't need it anymore as the kids are out of buggies. We all fit in the Kia
So she said get rid as she hates driving it , so big to park. Takes up the driveway
But she needs a car for when I'm working etc
I've said for a while I don't want another ice car where possible
Sold the Alhambra to a colleague for 10k and paid 15k for the Kona (3.5 years old)
It's more changing a car to suit our current needs rather than switching to save money, already saved a fortune on the Kia
However living slap bang in ulez, how long before all diesel's are banned? We subject to £12.50 charge? EVs wont be as they zero emissions
It was that or a petrol, EV suits us we both like them
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
The electric vehicles farce has reached a shambolic new low
If the industry wants to survive, it should stop making bad cars nobody wants to drive. It appears to want subsidies instead
www.telegraph.co.uk
I didn't realise this:
"Last year, for the first time, the market share for pure battery-powered cars fell back for the first time, from 16.6 per cent in 2022 to 16.5 per cent in 2023."
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Just noting for posterity that you seem to know a bit about different aliases.
pot kettle and black did spring to mind lol
could run a book on repeat returnees, maybe a who were they before, and previous usdernames over/under markets
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
The electric vehicles farce has reached a shambolic new low
If the industry wants to survive, it should stop making bad cars nobody wants to drive. It appears to want subsidies instead
I didn't realise this:
"Last year, for the first time, the market share for pure battery-powered cars fell back for the first time, from 16.6 per cent in 2022 to 16.5 per cent in 2023."
Typical media hatchet job on EVs
Come on your better than that
1 million EVs on the road now in the UK.
Can't be that bad.
In my control room out of 50 members of staff now 10 have EVs , that's a 5th of those 10 not a single one wants to get rid of their cars. We love them.
More and more are getting EVs due to seeing ours first hand and having a go. Rather than reading misleading and frankly horse dung articles written by companies who have heavy investments in the oil industry and are set to lose money with the take off of EVs.
Electric cars: Lords urge action on 'misinformation' in press
The Lords Climate Change Committee called on the government to push back against mistruths on range and cost.
www.google.com
Even the lords have had enough of the media
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Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
Showing your colours. You’re better than that.
There is a real problem if the free market is unsustainable without subsidy and there are signs emerging of that being the case. I have no objection to taxation subsidising change but it has to move in a direction where those subsidies end rather than perpetuate.
cliveb
Head Pro
I'm intrigued as to why a 40k service costs so much.
With no ICE to worry about, there's precious little that needs attention.
I can imagine the brake fluid might need renewing.
Pads and discs? Seems unlikely assuming regenerative braking does most of the work.
What actually needs doing that costs so much?
(And the 20k service seems a bit steep, too)
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
So? What does that prove? It’s rare for anyone to say they don’t like a new-to-them car. Have 10 people in the remaining 40 also got new-to-them ICE cars and also love them?
You’re confirming a bias, not proving a point.
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
Typical media hatchet job on EVs
Come on your better than that
1 million EVs on the road now in the UK.
Can't be that bad.
In my control room out of 50 members of staff now 10 have EVs , that's a 5th of those 10 not a single one wants to get rid of their cars. We love them.
More and more are getting EVs due to seeing ours first hand and having a go. Rather than reading misleading and frankly horse dung articles written by companies who have heavy investments in the oil industry and are set to lose money with the take off of EVs.
Electric cars: Lords urge action on 'misinformation' in press
The Lords Climate Change Committee called on the government to push back against mistruths on range and cost.
Even the lords have had enough of the media
what is horse dung about it? I posted because i was surprised share went down last year but i guess you are saying that the figure is wrong?
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
I'll look it up today at some point,
If you notice between the Hyundai and the Kia they are similar costs (even if the kia is lower)
The Kia the yearly inspection is optional, on the Hyundai it isn't
That said that amount is labour only they said
Edit here we go, at 40k miles the coolant is changed and the coolant used is very expensive apparently. Which I would assume is the same in the Kia as underneath they are the same car.
The 20k miles being expensive is just main stealer prices tbh , that £200 for the seat I was paying was from an independent garage I've used for years but main stealer obviously was more. I use them for ev services just to keep the battery warranty in check just incase.
That said divided into years the Kia costs £235 a year to service and the Kona £255 . I think that's not too bad personally.
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PJ87
Journeyman Pro
That's the entire premise of the articles being pumped out daily by the media
"I bought an EV and I hate it" from someone who wants to drive 70000 miles a day without stopping
Or you get the good old
"EV leaves someone stranded on the motorway" rather than the true story.. stupid owner gets onto a motorway with 10% or charge ...
If someone gets on a motorway with a fuel light come on and breaks down. Doesn't make the news
If an EV gets a flat tyre it's suddenly "these cars are useless you should never buy one"
Hence why the lords have even come out and said the media are doing anti EV articles based on false information and it needs to stop.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
The market share dropped a whopping 0.1%
That's hardly worth writing home about but the spin is it's big bad news and EVs are awful
Standard. Expect nothing less from the telegraph
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
I'm really not. Sorry I can't hide my hatred of those who have caused division, suffering over 13 years.
The real problem in this country is those in charge are pushing people into EVs whilst at the same time cutting the support to get the tech moving.
Already the law changed from all car parks must have chargers to all new car parks
Grants for EVs got cut
Grants for home chargers got cut
All putting more cost to those being encouraged to get them
The parking one was the worst. Having a charger in every car park would have made the transition much better for the end user.
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Market share may have dropped but that doesn’t mean the number of cars sold hasn’t gone up. That’s the fun part of percentages. For example, 16% of 100,000 = 16,000 & if the percentage drops to 15% but the total is 200,000 = 30,000.
A drop of 0.1% means diddly without knowing from what total it’s derived from. And it could be argued that it only dropped 0.1% after all the subsidies had been removed, which suggests sales are robust.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Tbh when I read the article it sounds like somebody who doesn't like EVs for whatever reason got that information and jumped on it.
I mean some of the languages in it
"Superior petrol cars"
"Nobody wants these EVs"
Stuff like that
Your right market share means nothing without the numbers but it doesn't matter to the papers. Facts left journalism a while ago it seems.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Is it time to shut this thread as it is no longer what it started out as? We all know who would (or has) bought an EV and who won’t and now it is just an ongoing repeat between certain parties who will never change their minds. It is resorting to petty name calling and trying to score points against the other view and is not constructive anymore.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
I’d be inclined to agree now. You’ve got the posters who love their EV’s and you’ve got Liverpool Phil et al whose forefathers would have been sat on their horses shouting at those in their Model T’s saying that they’ll never catch on. It’s now just going round in circles and has run its course.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
To be fair to Phil he isn't the worst and doesn't post this often in here. But yes we have some that do.
I'm not innocent im firmly in the opposite camp.
