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6 is more than I see in most car parks, cinemas, supermarkets, service stations. 6 is good going 👍

I was surprised when I saw them tbh .. they are some of the worse ones you can get (rovec) type 1. But they work. Very slow speed (3kwh) but it's enough for a top up

Would make a lot of sense to upgrade and make them paid for use. We get a lot of traffic from the health club side , societies, even meetings renting out the conference room
 

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This isn't to put the boot in, it's really to identify the scale of the infrastructure build we need. I know the numbers are increasing but we need a significant increase for it really to make a difference. The scale of the uplift required is pretty terrifying.
To be fair, most people who buy EVs at the moment can charge at home, so baring in mind most charging will be done at home where it's under 30p per kw, there won't be a huge sudden demand for public chargers at 50p+ per kw.
 

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To be fair, most people who buy EVs at the moment can charge at home, so baring in mind most charging will be done at home where it's under 30p per kw, there won't be a huge sudden demand for public chargers at 50p+ per kw.
It's how to break into that next bunch of buyers though. How to get those without drives, how to get those doing long journeys to only have one car and not keep 'the back up ICE'. If this policy is going to be genuine then at some stage this needs addressing.
 

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It's how to break into that next bunch of buyers though. How to get those without drives, how to get those doing long journeys to only have one car and not keep 'the back up ICE'. If this policy is going to be genuine then at some stage this needs addressing.

We definitely need a better charge network

Hand on heart I've never used public rapid charge. I've done a quick Tesco when it was free just because but other than that? Never

However even I can see it needs improving

Once you have chargers everywhere the distance you can travel is irrelevant in a way

Sod 500 mile batteries and 5 min recharges.. if you could get 200 miles in 20 mins and chargers everywhere? The majority of people would be fine
 

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If a club installs chargers, obviously there is an initial outlay, do they get paid when they are used? If so, what’s the payback like?
 

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The point I was making to Paul was the pub in question is a right 💩hole, I wondered if the chargers were a honey trap to lure in well to do types 😆

And the food is 🤢🤮

When did you last go? It's much improved. the school mums go there for their mum meets as it's local and it's definitely improved since it changed hands
 
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If a club installs chargers, obviously there is an initial outlay, do they get paid when they are used? If so, what’s the payback like?

A few members at our place asked for charging points to be installed - we already have a small car park and we said if we put in electric points then that removes a parking space everyone can use , so we said we would look at one at the overflow parking and it would be one that you would need to pay for - they said no because it was a bit of a walk to the clubhouse ( 100ms at most ) 😂
 

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When did you last go? It's much improved. the school mums go there for their mum meets as it's local and it's definitely improved since it changed hands

When did it change hands? We had a lunch in there last Christmas with the Bowls club. Out of the 12 meals maybe 4 were edible, long wait for food, veg still frozen, meat tough and dry.
The lady who organised it was in tears and the staff were completely indifferent to our problems.
 

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When did it change hands? We had a lunch in there last Christmas with the Bowls club. Out of the 12 meals maybe 4 were edible, long wait for food, veg still frozen, meat tough and dry.
The lady who organised it was in tears and the staff were completely indifferent to our problems.

Oh I defo wouldn't go there for an event. But a general pub lunch is ok

Not sure when it changed but it's Greene king now which is a step up
 

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If a club installs chargers, obviously there is an initial outlay, do they get paid when they are used? If so, what’s the payback like?
I think a popular business model is a company will install it for free, not connected to your electric but to the National Grid, but they keep 85% of the money spent on it. You just receive a “rent”.
 
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The point I was making to Paul was the pub in question is a right 💩hole, I wondered if the chargers were a honey trap to lure in well to do types 😆

And the food is 🤢🤮
Understood:)
I didn't quite see with drink driving laws being what they are, how odd it was for a pub to be "advocating" driving to it.:)
My club only installed 2 charging points becuase they got a grant to do so, and thus it hasn't cost them anything to have them. They are also pay to use as well, which all should be anyway:)
 

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The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) advises 2.3 million charging points will be needed in the UK by 2030 to keep up with predicted demand.
Not quite.
The report calls for the installation of at least 2.3 million charging points nationwide before the end of the decade. This would ensure all drivers – especially those without driveways – have the confidence to invest in the latest zero emission technologies.

At the moment the are 800-1000 new chargers being installed every month. To achieve their 2.3 million chargers would need over 1000 new chargers every DAY.
Impossible

And finally that report came out in June 2021, before the govt put back the date for banning new petrol and diesel car sales to 2035. So the demand won't be as high as previously thought.
 

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Talking my Finnish friends, they get 3 phase connection to almost every house there. I believe the same with Sweden, Norway and Germany?.. and hence home charging can get more rapid.

Just a wild thought.. as we push towards more EVs, what stops the govt to mandate Solar, 3phase and EV chargers for homes with driveways? It would cost 10k-ish over and above the normal cost.
 

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Talking my Finnish friends, they get 3 phase connection to almost every house there. I believe the same with Sweden, Norway and Germany?.. and hence home charging can get more rapid.

Just a wild thought.. as we push towards more EVs, what stops the govt to mandate Solar, 3phase and EV chargers for homes with driveways? It would cost 10k-ish over and above the normal cost.

We don't have forward thinking at the top. Never have. Always short term thinking

3 phase needs to be a thing, then can have 11kw chargers at home which speeds up. Also can then have more than 1 charger easier

Cost is a problem but we have lacked investments for decades
 
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