The all things EV chat thread

[cliveb]

Most problems with ice cars can be sorted a lot quicker than that imo.

There can be shortages of parts for ICE cars, too.
A few years ago my wife's Skoda Fabia put itself into limp-home mode because of a fault with the turbo wastegate actuator.
It spent about 2 months at the dealer waiting for a replacement.
The exact same part is used on various VWs, Seats and Audis, and apparently there were over 400 people in the UK waiting for one.

 

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[PNWokingham]

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The whole issue is nuanced and opaque and I think we are rushing too fast into it. It will take over no doubt by pure economics and I think they should get rid of all these targets like 2030, that could really harm the economy and they only have months to do this to stop the manufacturers betting everything on something that will be a decade too soon. Let it take over naturally and allow manufacturing, electric production capacity (no where near enough for targets set), battery technology etc to advance. Too much prescriptive control from the centre rushing to a target that is not clear

 

[Fade and Die]

The whole issue is nuanced and opaque and I think we are rushing too fast into it. It will take over no doubt by pure economics and I think they should get rid of all these targets like 2030, that could really harm the economy and they only have months to do this to stop the manufacturers betting everything on something that will be a decade too soon. Let it take over naturally and allow manufacturing, electric production capacity (no where near enough for targets set), battery technology etc to advance. Too much prescriptive control from the centre rushing to a target that is not clear

Exactly this. It’s the whole feeling of being forced into buying an expensive EV that gets people’s backs up. The product should sell itself, when it’s good enough people will want it. People ditched steam for diesel because it was obviously a better alternative, cheaper, more efficient and safer. When EVs are all these things people will flock to it.
Scrap the 2030 deadline, the product is not fit for purpose yet.

 

[clubchamp98]

There can be shortages of parts for ICE cars, too.
A few years ago my wife's Skoda Fabia put itself into limp-home mode because of a fault with the turbo wastegate actuator.
It spent about 2 months at the dealer waiting for a replacement.
The exact same part is used on various VWs, Seats and Audis, and apparently there were over 400 people in the UK waiting for one.

Yes I am sure ice cars are having problems.
Mainly due to chips .
Cars are just to complicated now.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

There can be shortages of parts for ICE cars, too.
A few years ago my wife's Skoda Fabia put itself into limp-home mode because of a fault with the turbo wastegate actuator.
It spent about 2 months at the dealer waiting for a replacement.
The exact same part is used on various VWs, Seats and Audis, and apparently there were over 400 people in the UK waiting for one.

I waited 2 months for a part for my diesel 5 Series after a safety recall with my car locked in a BMW compound. And the same part is now the reason for a second recall!

 

[Robster59]

When my missus was looking for her next car, we looked at all the options. It's far more complex than it used to be, that's for sure.

• Diesel - Uncertainty about future path of legislation and differential between petrol and diesel prices getting larger.
• Petrol - Fuel prices increasing, future legislation uncertain.
• Full Hybrid - She doesn't do enough mileage to keep the onboard batteries charged.
• Plug-In Hybrid - Still too expensive in our price range. A pity as we have a home charger for my company plug-in hybrid.
• Full Electric - See Plug-In Hybrid.

In the end, we went for a Kia Sportage 1.6 Petrol. Very comfortable, well-equipped. Not great MPG but she doesn't do a great mileage (I think she does <2000 miles per year nowadays). In reality, a Plug-In Hybrid of Full Electric would be ideal for her mileage, but cost ruled them out.

For company car tax reasons, I chose the Plug-In Hybrid. My company paid for the home charger installation, and reimburse me for the electrical charging costs. But non-fiscally, the ICE engined car actually gave me more in terms of MPG and distance that can be covered on a full tank. And also boot space, as the electric gubbins takes up a fair bit of boot space in my PHEV.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

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That looks like the sort of video one needs to sit watching whilst wearing a tinfoil hat.

 

[Tashyboy]

Out of interest I was driving past Sheffield yesterday and there a part of the M1 near Meadowhall that is 60 mph max speed limit for “ air quality” reasons. So why is it 60 and not 70 mph for zero emission vehicles. I get speed cameras are set at what the speed limit is but as soon as a vehicles reg pops up for a speeding car surely they would know it is a zero emission vehicle.

 

[PJ87]

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This video is complete and utter balderdash

Who even is this "expert?" The fact they are investing into new types of batteries that don't need the stuff being mined for here is one fact

Ice cars don't just produce themselves with magic fairy dust, they take emissions to make and extra EV emissions over the life of a car are much less than ice cars .

Fake news like this needs to be called out.

Twoddle

Now what @PNWokingham was saying about moving targets and such yes that should happen as the network is not ready as it's been held back and tech whilst great isn't fully ready for everyone

So move the deadline but actually work towards it not half hearted like it has been. Changing the law on car park chargers (all needed them , then it was just new ones) the powers that be need to set a date and all work towards it not turn off petrol manufacturer with one hand and hold back EV etc with the other hand

People slate china but when you actually look into their emission policy they have set a much more achievable and realistic 2050 policy which they are working towards

Actual video from someone with proper knowledge on the subject who says even hydrogen isn't the way forward for most things.. it's time to accept that EV is the way for most people ...petrol needs to be stopped as much as possible. It wont go on forever , but posting absolute balderdash fake news and trying to pass it off as a point? What does it achieve..nothing but spread misinformation

If people put half as much effort into trying to find solutions for the future as they do trashing what's already on the cars maybe we would find a better way ..






Right now 70% of the energy on the grid is wind power and we are producing 113% of demand so are exporting



We have so much spare octupus are paying their agile customers to use energy now

So all those EVs plugged in overnight are running off green energy..

The problem with balderdash like that video is that one video will cause more damage to people's misconceptions than any amount of researched videos will because people love snappy videos that back up what they want to believe rather than what's true.

 

[bobmac]

Scrap the 2030 deadline, the product is not fit for purpose yet.

Luckily, it doesn't have to be as the deadline is still 7 years away.
And even then, the ban is only for the sale of NEW ICE cars.
Keep driving your ICE car as long as you want.
Did any one actually watch the video I linked to in post no. 3420?

 

[PJ87]

Luckily, it doesn't have to be as the deadline is still 7 years away.
And even then, the ban is only for the sale of NEW ICE cars.
Keep driving your ICE car as long as you want.
Did any one actually watch the video I linked to in post no. 3420?

The one postive about the deadline is that manufactures are bringing out more and more options and are committing to them

More options means more variety

More variety means cheaper prices

Mg changed the game with distance traveled for price and have taken over the mini cab industry round here

Rome wasn't built in a day



0730 am. Going into peak times

Wind still 50% of our usage, we only producing 88% ourselfs but taking a fair bit from France as it's better to take their excess than fire up gas until needed

Brilliant stuff

 

[Fade and Die]

The one postive about the deadline is that manufactures are bringing out more and more options and are committing to them

More options means more variety

More variety means cheaper prices

Mg changed the game with distance traveled for price and have taken over the mini cab industry round here

Rome wasn't built in a day

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0730 am. Going into peak times

Wind still 50% of our usage, we only producing 88% ourselfs but taking a fair bit from France as it's better to take their excess than fire up gas until needed

Brilliant stuff

No mention of the 21% generated from Nuclear?

https://www.energy-uk.org.uk/our-work/generation/nuclear-generation.html

 

[PJ87]

No mention of the 21% generated from Nuclear?

https://www.energy-uk.org.uk/our-work/generation/nuclear-generation.html

it is there, its just out of screen shot. not on purpose. nuclear is part of the future and its much greener than gas

nuclear im a big fan of.

https://grid.iamkate.com/

thats the link

 

[Fade and Die]

it is there, its just out of screen shot. not on purpose. nuclear is part of the future and its much greener than gas

nuclear im a big fan of.

https://grid.iamkate.com/

thats the link

Using the gizmo further down it’s amazing how much we have weaned ourselves off Gas…

 

[bobmac]

Why are EVs still so expensive?
The cost of Lithium may have something to do with it

 

[cliveb]

Using the gizmo further down it’s amazing how much we have weaned ourselves off Gas…

You're comparing last week to a whole year.
Given the amount of wind we've had recently it's hardly surprising that the proportion of generation from renewables is that much higher.

 

[PJ87]

The used market is about to get interesting

Telsa dropping it's prices on the model 3 and model y



Let's see what the use market trickles down like

The y is defo something that interests me when the big car needs replacing. Its a perfect family car

 

[Neilds]

Out of interest I was driving past Sheffield yesterday and there a part of the M1 near Meadowhall that is 60 mph max speed limit for “ air quality” reasons. So why is it 60 and not 70 mph for zero emission vehicles. I get speed cameras are set at what the speed limit is but as soon as a vehicles reg pops up for a speeding car surely they would know it is a zero emission vehicle.

What makes me laugh about that stretch of the M1 is it is right where all the steel mills were until recently so the air is probably much cleaner now than it has been for many a year. And what difference does the 3-4 mile stretch make anyway?

 

[D-S]

You're comparing last week to a whole year.
Given the amount of wind we've had recently it's hardly surprising that the proportion of generation from renewables is that much higher.

Wasn’t a great week for solar though.