The all things EV chat thread

[GreiginFife]

How many battery stations are there going to be, how many batteries are they going to have each and where are all these batteries coming from, bearing in mind the problems we are having making enough of them today?

As I said above, I am not part of the project so do not know other than the bits I’ve read.

The system appears to work at the moment and I am sure that there are a number of very smart people working on it.

It may not be a completely solve all solution but it may be viable enough to be workable for some.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

How many battery stations are there going to be, how many batteries are they going to have each and where are all these batteries coming from, bearing in mind the problems we are having making enough of them today?



There are currently 6 manufacturers that make EVs that have a range of over 300 miles, 379 being the longest.
That's 900 miles if you stop twice.
I agree, that's a long run, about 18 hours of driving or London to Edinburgh and back

Watch this from 12:10 Bob, interesting comments about the range

 

[bobmac]

Watch this from 12:10 Bob, interesting comments about the range

What do you expect from mini-bus with the aerodynamics of a potato.
Ever since I passed my test in 1977, car manufacturers have been exaggerating their mpg figures so nothing new here.

If I was driving from London to Edinburgh, I would hire something designed as a cruiser like a Tesla model 3 long range which has a real world range of over 300 miles.

All I'm saying is that things have progressed more than some are aware, especially those who think nothing much has changed in the last 5 years.
I'm not here to convince everyone to swap to EVs, I'm just trying to provide some up to date info so that when you want to change your car, you base the decision on today's facts and not on the drivel spouted on some car show from 2011

 

[chellie]

Any people we know off that have electric cars either have them through work or their own business. Personally think the cost of them is too much for the ordinary person given the cost of everything else.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

We have a Hybrid merc just over 12months old. Mrs C was coming out of work Tuesday evening and car wouldn't start. AA sent out a contractor to try and get her goin but no joy. Had to leave it there til AA could retreive it and take it to the Merc dealership.

Update no car and they dont know what is wrong with it. Both mechanics who looked at it shook their heads trying to fix it.

I couldnt rely on a fully electric motor. I certainly wouldnt buy a 2nd hand one neither.

Shes currently stuck with no veichle.

 

[PJ87]

We have a Hybrid merc just over 12months old. Mrs C was coming out of work Tuesday evening and car wouldn't start. AA sent out a contractor to try and get her goin but no joy. Had to leave it there til AA could retreive it and take it to the Merc dealership.

Update no car and they dont know what is wrong with it. Both mechanics who looked at it shook their heads trying to fix it.

I couldnt rely on a fully electric motor. I certainly wouldnt buy a 2nd hand one neither.

Shes currently stuck with no veichle.

Ironically there is less to go wrong with a full EV than a hybrid.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

What do you expect from mini-bus with the aerodynamics of a potato.
Ever since I passed my test in 1977, car manufacturers have been exaggerating their mpg figures so nothing new here.

If I was driving from London to Edinburgh, I would hire something designed as a cruiser like a Tesla model 3 long range which has a real world range of over 300 miles.

All I'm saying is that things have progressed more than some are aware, especially those who think nothing much has changed in the last 5 years.
I'm not here to convince everyone to swap to EVs, I'm just trying to provide some up to date info so that when you want to change your car, you base the decision on today's facts and not on the drivel spouted on some car show from 2011

Exaggerating the figures? 250 miles down to 115 ???

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Ironically there is less to go wrong with a full EV than a hybrid.

I'm not sure that is actually correct, Where did you read that?

 

[PJ87]

I'm not sure that is actually correct, Where did you read that?

An EV has less moving parts than a ICE engine

With a hybrid you have the battery side and the ice side .. so each can fail

An EV only has one side to fail and less parts to fail

 

[Deleted member 1740]

An EV has less moving parts than a ICE engine

With a hybrid you have the battery side and the ice side .. so each can fail

An EV only has one side to fail and less parts to fail

If only it was that simple.

I will bow down to your extensive knowledge on EV motors.

 

[road2ruin]

I know we all like to get hung up on range however having come from powerful cars I drive my EV as I’ve done the rest of my motors and don’t get and eek out the extra miles. What I really enjoy is the instant power delivery away from lights etc. There’s not an awful lot that I can’t be off the lights. Granted a few hundred yards up the road they’ll pass me but I’ve scared a few friends who haven’t been prepared for sports mode from a standing start!!

 

[bobmac]

Exaggerating the figures? 250 miles down to 115 ???

And apparently the 2020 US election was stolen.
Don't believe everything you see on the internet

 

[bobmac]

If only it was that simple.

It is that simple.

 

[PJ87]

I know we all like to get hung up on range however having come from powerful cars I drive my EV as I’ve done the rest of my motors and don’t get and eek out the extra miles. What I really enjoy is the instant power delivery away from lights etc. There’s not an awful lot that I can’t be off the lights. Granted a few hundred yards up the road they’ll pass me but I’ve scared a few friends who haven’t been prepared for sports mode from a standing start!!

Same. Also I drive on one of the worst roads In London and when you crawl home you use bugger all electric

 

[PJ87]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1596191764242919424

Interesting

 

[Deleted member 23270]

And apparently the 2020 US election was stolen.
Don't believe everything you see on the internet

Come on Bob don't be silly, it's a reputable car review channel.

 

[ColchesterFC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1596191764242919424

Interesting

While I'm not disagreeing with him on most of that video clip, no idea on efficiency and I'm sure the cost would be massive, where would the nitrous oxides that he's saying would be produced come from? If you burn hydrogen the waste product is water.

 

[bobmac]

Come on Bob don't be silly, it's a reputable car review channel.

Here's a few of his video titles.....
Are Plug-in Hybrids Utterly Pointless?
Synthetic Fuels: A BETTER Alternative To Electric Cars?
What Happens When My CHEAP Leaf DIES?
Project Leaf: Everything I HATE About My Used Electric Car
Are Used Electric Cars A BAD Idea?
You get the idea.

No surprise his other car is a V8 Mustang

 

[Deleted member 23270]

Here's a few of his video titles.....
Are Plug-in Hybrids Utterly Pointless?
Synthetic Fuels: A BETTER Alternative To Electric Cars?
What Happens When My CHEAP Leaf DIES?
Project Leaf: Everything I HATE About My Used Electric Car
Are Used Electric Cars A BAD Idea?
You get the idea.

No surprise his other car is a V8 Mustang

You have clearly not watched those videos as he puts forward both sides of the argument before giving a balanced opinion.

 

[bobmac]

You have clearly not watched those videos as he puts forward both sides of the argument before giving a balanced opinion.

Yes I have watched them and I don't think his opinion is balanced.