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Ryder Cup 2023 - Italy

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I’d like to see us give Donald a shot in the US … makes sense for it be a home and away job

think we have a hell of a chance over there id imagine we’d have a couple more major winners involved and there’s a Belgian looking good on the KFT and that young swede who won the Barbados and Irish Open
 
Gimme’s should really be phased out of the game, regardless of the format. I know quite a few people that don’t use them in Matchplay, and I know people that expect them in a casual or society strokeplay.
The aim of golf is to put the ball in the hole, not knock it close and hope your opponent takes sympathy on you.
 
I did think that on Fowler's gimme on the 16th that I'd almost rather have had to putt it to take the win. As it was it kind of stuttered the celebrations a little.

Had Tommy missed then maybe Fowler didn't want the celebrations to be because he himself missed the par putt so took the safer option - which is fair enough and a classy move from him.

Surprised there weren't more gimmies from 6ft plus with the two nicest guys on golf playing one another 😂.
 
Is it likely that Fowler knew the bang up to date situation with the other matches. If so I think at that moment it was virtually inevitable for europe to reach 14.5 even if Tommy missed
He was the only player who finished with zero points. If nothing else, I’d have clung to any chance to get even 0.5.
 
Where do the Americans go from here, from what I read and watched on TV, they never really seemed that bothered, or maybe I’m being too harsh on them.
The team spirit looked missing, individually they are tremendous players but something seems amiss.
The Americans are fine. There wasnt a cigarette paper between the two teams. The gap in this type of scoring is misleading as to the real gap between the teams. They won by 10 last time, they could win by 10 again in Bethpage, without doing anything differently. One mistake they probably have made, in a misguided atrempt to emulate what they see as Europes special sauce 8n picking buddies. Pick form golfers.
Like Waterloo, this was a damned close run thing, and that is lost in the shakeout of the final score, and that winning is everything, losing is nothing. Donald was fine. Johnson was fine.

The inability of both away teams to win foursomes is a headscratcher. But maybe just noise rather than anything with a true root cause.
 
Fowler was dormie 2 and so the Ryder Cup had already been decided, the half point was enough. Shane was a hole ahead and also had a guaranteed half for 15 points.

If Rickie somehow won that hole he would have had to play 18 with all the celebrations going on after Shane would have captured the half in front. Not a lot of fun, and highly unlikely he would’ve got there anyway. People reading way too much into it!
 
Fowler was dormie 2 and so the Ryder Cup had already been decided, the half point was enough. Shane was a hole ahead and also had a guaranteed half for 15 points.

If Rickie somehow won that hole he would have had to play 18 with all the celebrations going on after Shane would have captured the half in front. Not a lot of fun, and highly unlikely he would’ve got there anyway. People reading way too much into it!
Fleetwood was only 1up playing 16, he went dormie 2 when he gave the putt, which he should never have done! I suspect at that point Lowry and Speith were still level on 17, so it could have gone either way at that point.
 
From what I can see on the scoring, looks like Clarke drove it in the water on 16, Bob Mac then drove it to the front of the green, Clarke then hits his third in the water and concedes, anyone know different?
 
From what I can see on the scoring, looks like Clarke drove it in the water on 16, Bob Mac then drove it to the front of the green, Clarke then hits his third in the water and concedes, anyone know different?
The details on the website confirm that:
 

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He’s a sweetie - my fave American golfer (hell, my fave American) by a mile.

I mean it's a pretty low bar but he came across so well :) Don't follow PGA Tour golf much so can honestly say I wouldn't have recognised him before the weekend. His celebrations weren't the combative type the yanks seem to love rather than a heartfelt joy at winning.
 
I mean it's a pretty low bar but he came across so well :) Don't follow PGA Tour golf much so can honestly say I wouldn't have recognised him before the weekend. His celebrations weren't the combative type the yanks seem to love rather than a heartfelt joy at winning.
He's a thoroughly decent guy,and a very good player. Saw him on the Netflix series with Joel Dahmen, really nice unassuming bloke
 
Not my favourite Ryder Cup.
Poor behaviour by some Europe fans.
Average putting.
Hats off to the American players.
Inane chanting of USA USA.
Hysterical commentary when a long putt went in.
I must admit I didn't see much belligerent behaviour by the European side at all. I couldn't be everywhere obviously but I thought the atmosphere tremendous
 
From what I can see on the scoring, looks like Clarke drove it in the water on 16, Bob Mac then drove it to the front of the green, Clarke then hits his third in the water and concedes, anyone know different?
I think you could be correct. I watched the highlights on the BBC and they said Bob had had an eagle there. That is why I posted that somewhere above. I’ve just had a look on the PGA app and it shows that Bob was conceded the hole.
 
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