Random Irritations

[Deleted member 1147]

If I was a gamer I'd be seriously embarrassed to call myself a sportsman.

I'd be embarrased to admit I played computer games for a living

 

[Orikoru]

Any physical movement is exertion. As I’ve said in other replies, don’t confuse the word exertion with something physically tiring as that’s colloquial.

I'm going to have to disagree there. Otherwise we'll need to expand the definition of what is a sport to a hell of a lot of new things. As someone said earlier, chess requires a similar amount of exertion so that must be a sport then. Are sheepdog trials a sport as whistling is exertion? Battle of the Bands at a local music venue is a sport as it requires exertion to play your instruments and you're competing against other bands? I'm not sure.

They've coined the word 'ESports' as short for electronic sport, but just because the word sport is in the name, I'm not sure that means it is actually a sport. Just like how sweetbreads are not actually bread. And urinal cakes are not cakes. Hot dogs are not made of dog.

 

[Deleted member 25172]

I can't defend that one

Nah, it's just strange, isn't it. In my mail to them I actually included the very first mail they sent me that had the pincode, just to show that it indeed had arrived to the correct person, but nah. I guess if I hadn't been lazy and doing the "I'll do it tomorrow"-routine, then I wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[NearHull]

GDPR I’m afraid old boy.

You can’t email documents, for individuals, with a certain number of private/personal details shown.
But post, which can easily be intercepted, is fine.

They should have a portal, which can be used to send anything.

I’m a HL member. There is a portal you just have to log on...............

 

[Kellfire]

I'm going to have to disagree there. Otherwise we'll need to expand the definition of what is a sport to a hell of a lot of new things. As someone said earlier, chess requires a similar amount of exertion so that must be a sport then. Are sheepdog trials a sport as whistling is exertion? Battle of the Bands at a local music venue is a sport as it requires exertion to play your instruments and you're competing against other bands? I'm not sure.

They've coined the word 'ESports' as short for electronic sport, but just because the word sport is in the name, I'm not sure that means it is actually a sport. Just like how sweetbreads are not actually bread. And urinal cakes are not cakes. Hot dogs are not made of dog.

Computer games require the physical dexterity of using the controller. There’s a lot of skill on that. The ability to move the pieces in chess doesn’t dictate the winner; the player could tell someone else what to do and it would still be the same game. That’s not the same with using a controller or mouse & keyboard.

 

[Deleted member 25172]

I’m a HL member. There is a portal you just have to log on...............

For which I would've needed the pincode...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Fly tipping at work again. I have the person on cctv but annoyingly it was 9.35pm on saturday night so too dark for a clear image. We are classed as private land so the council will not deal with it. The simple solution is for me to drag it 30 meters onto council land at which point they will remove it. I then become a fly tipper though............

 

[PJ87]

Work running out of grit last night

Parked fine but walking accross the car park was interesting

 

[Orikoru]

Computer games require the physical dexterity of using the controller. There’s a lot of skill on that. The ability to move the pieces in chess doesn’t dictate the winner; the player could tell someone else what to do and it would still be the same game. That’s not the same with using a controller or mouse & keyboard.

As someone else said, so does crocheting and knitting but those aren't sports either. I remain unconvinced, but there's no point adding anymore posts to the discussion really.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Any physical movement is exertion. As I’ve said in other replies, don’t confuse the word exertion with something physically tiring as that’s colloquial.

Er, actually it's not.

The OED defines exertion as physical or mental effort.

The same OED defines effort as strenuous physical or mental exertion.

And the same OED defines strenuous as requiring or using great effort or exertion.

So a great effort, or exertion, would be physically tiring then.

So not colloquial at all, as per the dictionary definition you like to refer people to.

 

[Kellfire]

Er, actually it's not.

The OED defines exertion as physical or mental effort.

The same OED defines effort as strenuous physical or mental exertion.

And the same OED defines strenuous as requiring or using great effort or exertion.

So a great effort, or exertion, would be physically tiring then.

So not colloquial at all, as per the dictionary definition you like to refer people to.

You try using a controller without any physical effort. If you haven’t mastered telekinesis, you won’t be very good at it.

 

[woofers]

I guess if I hadn't been lazy and doing the "I'll do it tomorrow"-routine, then I wouldn't be in this situation.

Think you’ve summed it up there.
Anytime now they’ll be loads of complaints about the HMRC website being inundated because the tax self assessment deadline is looming.....I mean there’s only been 9 months to complete a return!

 

[GB72]

I guess that sports can be a test of dexterity as well as physical strength speed or endurance. Shooting, archery etc are Olympic sports and the test is one of dexterity rather than physical ability. Gaming can fall into a similar category.

 

[Imurg]

It would be quicker to say what hasn't irritated me today........

 

[Deleted member 25172]

Think you’ve summed it up there.
Anytime now they’ll be loads of complaints about the HMRC website being inundated because the tax self assessment deadline is looming.....I mean there’s only been 9 months to complete a return!

True, but it doesn't explain the logic of sending my passport and drivers license details to the same address of which they claim they can't confirm that I live at.

 

[Blue in Munich]

You try using a controller without any physical effort. If you haven’t mastered telekinesis, you won’t be very good at it.

I didn't say you couldn't use a controller without effort, I said that by definition exertion should be physically tiring. But you've completely ignored that in order to try and drag this out.

Seeing as you like definitions, that appears to fit this one;

Trolling is defined as creating discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory or off-topic messages in an online community. Basically, a social media troll is someone who purposely says something controversial in order to get a rise out of other users.

Yup, seems to fit perfectly. Time to invoke the ignore function.

 

[chrisd]

I do a VAT return using a computer mouse - didnt think I'd ever be a sportsman , Olympics here I come!

 

[Kellfire]

I didn't say you couldn't use a controller without effort, I said that by definition exertion should be physically tiring. But you've completely ignored that in order to try and drag this out.

Seeing as you like definitions, that appears to fit this one;

Trolling is defined as creating discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people by posting inflammatory or off-topic messages in an online community. Basically, a social media troll is someone who purposely says something controversial in order to get a rise out of other users.

Yup, seems to fit perfectly. Time to invoke the ignore function.

I know you won’t see this but others will so I’m going to address it - I’d be trolling if I didn’t actually believe what I’m saying, but I do.

I enjoy playing computer games and have got into watching esports over the past year during lockdown as a hobby. I’m not a sportsman for it, I’m not competing for anything, for me it’s just for fun but I watch people who do and they take it very seriously. They have coaches, they practice a lot and they compete for big money. They are very good at what they do. I think the idea that it’s not a sport is borderline snobbery from people who aren’t interested - something we could all be guilty of...

 

[chrisd]

I know you won’t see this but others will so I’m going to address it - I’d be trolling if I didn’t actually believe what I’m saying, but I do.

I enjoy playing computer games and have got into watching esports over the past year during lockdown as a hobby. I’m not a sportsman for it, I’m not competing for anything, for me it’s just for fun but I watch people who do and they take it very seriously. They have coaches, they practice a lot and they compete for big money. They are very good at what they do. I think the idea that it’s not a sport is borderline snobbery from people who aren’t interested - something we could all be guilty of...

The fact that YOU believe what you are saying DOESN'T stopping it being trolling

To be fair, of all the stuff I've argued against your point of view, this really is the one that takes the biscuit. Playing computer games is not, and never will be, a sport

 

[PJ87]

The fact that YOU believe what you are saying DOESN'T stopping it being trolling

To be fair, of all the stuff I've argued against your point of view, this really is the one that takes the biscuit. Playing computer games is not, and never will be, a sport

You say that.. when we get full VR with 360 treadmills you can run on and virtually play the sport fully

Then it will be sport.. well unless someone cheats