cliveb
Head Pro
Nearly all of this kind of behaviour is perpetrated by young men. Perhaps the time has come to find an antidote to testosterone and put it in the water supply.
Random Irritations
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HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
My first reaction to this is national service and learn some discipline and a sense of purpose but I think it is an enditement on society that we have these almost feral youngsters who think they have a given right to act anti-socially at the drop of a hat and it has some justification
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Yesterday when we were in the bar (I did not play ) one of the guys nearly passed out completely from heat stroke. He took a lot of reviving there was talk of calling an ambulance but we finally managed to cool him down enough for him to be lucid but he was driven home rather than let him drive.
Apparently one of the ladies who played earlier also passed out.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
PS
I am also someone who cannot take this level of heat but the choice is simple for me I just stay home with all the curtains drawn to stop the sun warming up the house.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
The face of it is, but the those orchestrating it will be older to middle aged men.
PaulMdj
Well-known member
Give racists weapons training and Unarmed Combat training ? National Service really isn’t the answer.
Whereditgo
Journeyman Pro
Not many on those clips looked like "youngsters" to me.
Unbelievable and appalling behavior, hopefully many will be identified and prosecuted with the harshest sentences possible.
My thoughts are with the family's of those whose children have been murdered or injured and the brave women who were injured trying to protect them.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I agree but will the courts actually hand out the strongest sentences including jail when prisons are already over crowded. Without an apt deterrent they'll carry on with impunityNot many on those clips looked like "youngsters" to me.
Unbelievable and appalling behavior, hopefully many will be identified and prosecuted with the harshest sentences possible.
My thoughts are with the family's of those whose children have been murdered or injured and the brave women who were injured trying to protect them.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Discussion and various views being expressed here on what to do about those involved in the violence - so here’s mine. Crack down on the apologists and those who give them the oxygen of a justification for their actions. We know who they are. I’ll say no more.
hambugerpete
Member
Turn up on site with a just stop oil banner and they'll soon round you up and give you 5 years.
Robster59
Tour Rookie
That "peaceful" JSO bloke blocked ambulances, emergency services, made people miss flights and caused massive disruption to peoples lives.
He took the law in his own hands in the same way that the thugs in Southport did.
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Morfeen75
Active member
He never attacked Police officers neither.
Robster59
Tour Rookie
Is that your defining argument? He still put peoples lives at risk by blocking access for emergency services. He didn't care about the possible ramifications.
hambugerpete
Member
Of course he cares, like i care that a specific law brought in just to do this . Don't worry about the fact it's eroding your basic rights as a citizen.
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
What about the rights of those he caused delays to who may have missed important medical appointments, funerals, or any other important personal appointments. Or those having to risk their own lives to get him down?
Instead of trying to fight his cause here, why not go do it in the countries who pollute much worse or against the big tech firms who’s drive for the so beloved AI is causing huge rises in CO2 from the power they are draining?
RichA
Well-known member
This guy essentially took thousands of his fellow citizens hostage for hours. What about their basic rights?
I'm not against lawful climate activism, but why would you target normal people going about their normal lives? It's stupid.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Whilst I fully agree with the have punishments in place for people that cause disruption to the general public and of course emergency services
5 years prison sentence seems a bit strange when you consider what some people get for assault etc
Doesn’t seem proportional to the crime of protesting
As for causing disruption to the public - why do people go on strike ? Rail service ,Fire service, doctors etc go on strike and cause disruption to the general public
hambugerpete
Member
They are fighting against oil here in the UK and our drilling for it. I've no issues with the arrests, but a bigger sentence than your average sex offender, drug dealer or burglar! We are constantly told prisons are overcrowded but we find room for those who shouldn't even be there.next time there is a rail strike, doctors strike or whatever, will they be tried for conspiracy? All those cause as much trouble as any JSO protest.
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RichA
Well-known member
I believe strikes are only legal if voted for by their participants and notified in advance. They don't tend to involve thousands of people being deliberately detained for hours without notice on a motorway.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
This. Notice has to be given and it has to be voted on. I am affected by the train strikes but I wouldn't want anyones right to strike removed. Holding up emergency workers and ordinary citizens seems a selfish and reckless action for a cause and while the sentence may seem harsh given the amount of money that would have been lost to the economy (transport deliveries late etc) then was it really?
